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    Senator Haw Haw Hawley is probably as loony toons as Marjorie Taylor Greene and may actually believe the Qanonsense. Ted Cruz, on the other hand, isn't loony. He's just playing to his base. Who knows, maybe going full Karen on the United staff at the Bozeman airport was just playing to his base too.

    The hearings last week didn't seem to really be about the supreme court at all. It appeared to be more about republicans expressing their midterm election strategy which seems to be opposing interracial marriage, opposing gay marriage, and opposing contraception. Baselessly accusing the next supreme court justice of being part of the imagined democratic pedo ring was just a side benefit for them. The polling numbers on these topics aren't really in their favor by a wide margin so beyond whipping up excitement among their base I find this a curious strategy. Whipping up the base was trump's strategy from start to finish and we all know how well that worked out for him.

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    I was chatting with a local guy about diving on a scuba forum. We share the same instructor. He mentioned he was going to be back and forth overseas. I asked him where and he told me somewhere in Russia’s Far East. When I commented that was an interesting destination, especially with current events, he got downright frothing at the mouth. Dude is late 20s for reference. Married to a Russian, supposedly owns a company there, lived there a lot. The US has always been fed a wrong narrative about Russia. Blah blah blah.

    “Dude, you’re a baby. I’m 53 and well remember the Cold War from the late 70s on.” I asked him if he had any issue with all the civilians being slaughtered in Ukraine, especially women and children who were trying to flee. Crickets. No answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    I was chatting with a local guy about diving on a scuba forum. We share the same instructor. He mentioned he was going to be back and forth overseas. I asked him where and he told me somewhere in Russia’s Far East. When I commented that was an interesting destination, especially with current events, he got downright frothing at the mouth. Dude is late 20s for reference. Married to a Russian, supposedly owns a company there, lived there a lot. The US has always been fed a wrong narrative about Russia. Blah blah blah.

    “Dude, you’re a baby. I’m 53 and well remember the Cold War from the late 70s on.” I asked him if he had any issue with all the civilians being slaughtered in Ukraine, especially women and children who were trying to flee. Crickets. No answer.
    They are being told Russians were being slaughtered in the Ukraine.

    i know Vladimir has many supporters among his people, quite a majority approve of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    They are being told Russians were being slaughtered in the Ukraine.

    i know Vladimir has many supporters among his people, quite a majority approve of him.
    He currently lives in the US so has access to news here. Oh yes I know what Russians are being fed.

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    It's beginning to be clear to me that a lot of Russians deserve Putin. I hope the 30% or so that see through his propaganda are able to effect change or emigrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    It's beginning to be clear to me that a lot of Russians deserve Putin. I hope the 30% or so that see through his propaganda are able to effect change or emigrate.
    Yep! There are also some countries that just don’t seem to have the national mindset for self governance. Dictator needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Yep! There are also some countries that just don’t seem to have the national mindset for self governance. Dictator needed.
    You see a lot of that from the Russian fanboys/trolls from various African countries who are advocating for Ukrainian surrender.

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    Russia has no independent media so state tv lies to them. I certainly don’t blame the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Russia has no independent media so state tv lies to them. I certainly don’t blame the people.
    True enough. They are just following orders when engaging in what seem to be war crimes in Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Russia has no independent media so state tv lies to them. I certainly don’t blame the people.
    There were some alternative media sources, but they were recently silenced. Many of the associated journalists are in exile now. Navalny and others have tried to open the eyes of the willfully blind--you can tell by man in the street interviews that not all Russians are buying the lies about Nazis overrunning Ukraine. Most others are clearly "true believers."

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