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    Mother Jones published an article about the Republican manifesto outlined in a 122 page brief (erroneously?) called "Blue Print to Save America" by the Republican Study Committee. They claim that 75% of Republican House lawmakers are on this committee. It is the policies they will likely pursue if they regain the Senate and/or possibly the presidency. Everything you might guess. Reduce taxes but increase military sending. Raise the age for Social Security benefits, replace the AFCA, develop fossil fuel production and hamstring the EPA and other climate change initiatives, plus every other conservative platform you might suspect including gay rights, abortion, etc. I was able to browse through it fairly easily, but not the details.

    https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfile...final_copy.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Mother Jones published an article about the Republican manifesto outlined in a 122 page brief (erroneously?) called "Blue Print to Save America" by the Republican Study Committee. They claim that 75% of Republican House lawmakers are on this committee. It is the policies they will likely pursue if they regain the Senate and/or possibly the presidency. Everything you might guess. Reduce taxes but increase military sending. Raise the age for Social Security benefits, replace the AFCA, develop fossil fuel production and hamstring the EPA and other climate change initiatives, plus every other conservative platform you might suspect including gay rights, abortion, etc. I was able to browse through it fairly easily, but not the details.

    https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfile...final_copy.pdf
    I looked at this as much as I could on a work break with constant interruptions. Scary. Especially climate change denial. At least this may speed this country's split up. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I looked at this as much as I could on a work break with constant interruptions. Scary. Especially climate change denial. At least this may speed this country's split up. Rob
    What does "splitting up" look like to you?

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    The problem is there are few good answers at this point. The status quo is just living under long term extremist minority rule, that maintains it's minority rule by subverting democratic accountability, no matter how completely it's agenda is opposed by public opinion. Basically democratic change is being made impossible.

    I don't believe that things getting worse will make things better (accelerationism), it just generally makes things worse. But the Supreme Court is increasingly ruling the federal government is illegitimate, those who actually want to have a government (anarchists need not apply I suppose, but I doubt they really approve of this either), might look for such in regional alliances between states or whatever. Most states are just not well equipped to be a full government on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    The problem is there are few good answers at this point. The status quo is just living under long term extremist minority rule, that maintains it's minority rule by subverting democratic accountability, no matter how completely it's agenda is opposed by public opinion. Basically democratic change is being made impossible.

    I don't believe that things getting worse will make things better (accelerationism), it just generally makes things worse. But the Supreme Court is increasingly ruling the federal government is illegitimate, those who actually want to have a government (anarchists need not apply I suppose, but I doubt they really approve of this either), might look for such in regional alliances between states or whatever. Most states are just not well equipped to be a full government on their own.
    I'll be watching how these regional alliances work. It looks like the three Pacific coastal states are standing together at this point.

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    I actually think of the country splitting with dread (partition of India, etc. as food for thought). We would most likely be in a quasi-to-total Gilead wanna-be, here in Ohio. We don't really have the means to move to a bluer state at present, although, honestly, we're kicking around worst-case ideas. We are in our mid-60s, with two adult children who are very underemployed, and I have 2 much older siblings (79 & 81), neither with kids/other family here, though the oldest is married. So there's that to factor in. Frankly, I'm really concerned about our future. I seem to have misplaced my pair of LDAHL's rose-colored glasses. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    I actually think of the country splitting with dread (partition of India, etc. as food for thought). We would most likely be in a quasi-to-total Gilead wanna-be, here in Ohio. We don't really have the means to move to a bluer state at present, although, honestly, we're kicking around worst-case ideas. We are in our mid-60s, with two adult children who are very underemployed, and I have 2 much older siblings (79 & 81), neither with kids/other family here, though the oldest is married. So there's that to factor in. Frankly, I'm really concerned about our future. I seem to have misplaced my pair of LDAHL's rose-colored glasses. . .
    Having recently read The Vortex I am glad Bangladesh was able to separate from Pakistan, though it's awful it took a war to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    What does "splitting up" look like to you?
    Bae, as I've said before, I honestly don't know. What does Cascadia look like to you? .

    Rob

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    One thing I am very grateful for - there is a somewhat affordable blue state right next door to me - New Mexico. Not everyone has this - red or blue close to them like I do. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    I actually think of the country splitting with dread (partition of India, etc. as food for thought). We would most likely be in a quasi-to-total Gilead wanna-be, here in Ohio. We don't really have the means to move to a bluer state at present, although, honestly, we're kicking around worst-case ideas. We are in our mid-60s, with two adult children who are very underemployed, and I have 2 much older siblings (79 & 81), neither with kids/other family here, though the oldest is married. So there's that to factor in. Frankly, I'm really concerned about our future. I seem to have misplaced my pair of LDAHL's rose-colored glasses. . .
    I’m a cockeyed optimist who doesn’t see massive sentiment for the 55/45 states splitting off from the 45/55 states. Nor do I see budding fascist dictatorships or theocracies getting much traction in the real world either. Maybe I just don’t spend enough time in social media reality to see all the signs and portents.

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