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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Our 19th Century split would have been peaceful as well if the north hadn't invaded the south.
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    Yes, Fort Sumter was an unfinished fort when Federal troops occupied it just weeks after South Carolina seceded. It probably had to do with Charleston Harbor being an important commerce point for the state and could be effectively shut down by cannon fire from Sumter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Why do you think Democratic Senators have been asking that question during confirmation hearings for the past 30 years? It's because they all know it didn't meet constitutional muster. What you should be asking is why the liberal justices, knowing Roe was damaged, didn't concur with the majority.

    I think you should put a little more effort into your 'fathoming'.
    That is your opinion. For over 50 years, and other times trying to overturn Roe, did not meet muster. It is the right trying to enforce their "christian" beliefs on others. There NEEDS to be a separation from church and state. This whole thing is total B.S. The trump justices LIED during questioning. They should be taken off the court IMO. Even some of the republicans who questioned them are SHOCKED that they went against their responses that they would not overturn. It is a travesty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    That is your opinion.
    It was Ruth Bader Ginsburg's opinion too. She believed it should have been decided under the equal protection clause rather than as a privacy right as it would be a little less shaky. The current Supreme Court have now given the legislature a means to make it right if they're actually interested in doing so. I would think you'd celebrate that.

    It is the right trying to enforce their "christian" beliefs on others.
    I know that plays well on cable news and daytime talk shows but I think the right is more interested in insisting that constitutional rights actually be referenced in the constitution and not allowing the court to be used as a grantor of rights when it's the responsibility of Congress to do so through time tested processes.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    If anyone is/was my hero it was RBG and SHE is the one who got Roe through, as well as, many other needed laws. And, yes it is christian beliefs, more specifically Catholic beliefs…that are being forced through. I think more supreme court justices should be put in place since trump abandoned Garland and pushed the handmaiden through in a few weeks. Kavanaugh (spell?) was questionable too. It would make for a more equitable division of beliefs. Or just get rid of the lying bast…ds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Why do you think Democratic Senators have been asking that question during confirmation hearings for the past 30 years? It's because they all know it didn't meet constitutional muster. What you should be asking is why the liberal justices, knowing Roe was damaged, didn't concur with the majority.
    So you're good with perjury as long as it's not perjury about a damn blowjob. Got it. Thanks for clarifying your priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    If anyone is/was my hero it was RBG and SHE is the one who got Roe through, as well as, many other needed laws. And, yes it is christian beliefs, more specifically Catholic beliefs…that are being forced through. I think more supreme court justices should be put in place since trump abandoned Garland and pushed the handmaiden through in a few weeks. Kavanaugh (spell?) was questionable too. It would make for a more equitable division of beliefs. Or just get rid of the lying bast…ds!
    Now you’re just making stuff up. RBG was famously critical of the legal reasoning behind Roe. It’s a matter of record. She was appointed to the SCOTUS many years after the decision, so even if she had been willing to put her name to that hot mess of emanations and penumbrae, she wouldn’t have been in a position to “get it through”.

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    I stand corrected. RBG was a proponent of women’s rights and here are her words about Roe:

    “My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.

    Roe isn’t really about the woman’s choice, is it?” Ginsburg said. “It’s about the doctor’s freedom to practice…it wasn’t woman-centered, it was physician-centered.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    I don’t think it’s in this country’s best interest to split and don’t believe it will happen.
    I can respect your take, TT. I just wonder how many Uvaldes, Derek Chauvins, Supreme Court decision overturns, and January 6ths can this nation endure, especially in this stressful, unstable Putin as madman/inflation as enemy environment? But if there were a way to avoid splitting, the above issues would need to be addressed down to their DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    So you're good with perjury as long as it's not perjury about a damn blowjob.
    Expressing an opinion which is subject to change is not perjury.
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