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    As the saying goes, "Where there is smoke, there is fire".

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    I may agree with Rep Cheney on one or two issues (Trump, gay marriage) but otherwise, we're diametrically opposed in every way. It says volumes, though, that she one of the few Republicans with a spine and some character, and her idea of a winning strategy doesn't consist of hurling vulgar and/or violent jibes at her opponents. I respect her greatly for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I may agree with Rep Cheney on one or two issues (Trump, gay marriage) but otherwise, we're diametrically opposed in every way. It says volumes, though, that she one of the few Republican with a spine and some character, and her idea of a winning strategy doesn't consist of hurling vulgar and/or violent jibes at her opponents. I respect her greatly for that.
    She'll probably get a profiles in courage award and people will fawn over her until her warmonger father dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    She'll probably get a profiles in courage award and people will fawn over her until her warmonger father dies.
    He does seem to taint everything he touches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    and Kennedy.
    During the 1960 presidential campaign, when Republicans tried to make the term liberal anathema, Kennedy embraced it. A liberal, he said in one speech, “cares about the welfare of the people—their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties,” and under that definition, he said, “I’m proud to say I’m a ‘liberal.’”...

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    I feel very confident in saying that whoever ultimately prevails in the GOP primary process, people will try to fit him or her with a Trump toupee and a Hitler mustache. The alternative of running on the Democrats’ performance in office being too frightening to contemplate.
    And republicans will pretend that desantis is a perfectly normal and reasonable candidate. Just like republicans in Wisconsin are trying to do with that shitstain ron Johnson. Supposedly ‘decent’ republicans there have no problem continuing to vote for a dude that participated in the attempt to overthrow the government. But like the way republicans redefine words it seems that they have also redefined ‘decent’ to mean ‘anyone who will vote me a ****ing tax break ‘

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    During the 1960 presidential campaign, when Republicans tried to make the term liberal anathema, Kennedy embraced it. A liberal, he said in one speech, “cares about the welfare of the people—their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties,” and under that definition, he said, “I’m proud to say I’m a ‘liberal.’”...
    I think that was the tail end of the era when progressivism was popularly considered anti-liberal. I happen to think it still is, it's a shame progressives were able to hijack the term. The modern Democratic Party is the antithesis of classical liberalism so I think his use of the term doesn't necessarily mean what you imply.

    I believe, if he had survived, JFK would be a libertarian or republican these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post

    I believe, if he had survived, JFK would be a libertarian or republican these days
    And trump would have been laughed off the stage. Yet, here we are.

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    [QUOTE=Alan;413264]I think that was the tail end of the era when progressivism was popularly considered anti-liberal. I happen to think it still is, it's a shame progressives were able to hijack the term. The modern Democratic Party is the antithesis of classical liberalism so I think his use of the term doesn't necessarily mean what you imply.

    I believe, if he had survived, JFK would be a libertarian or republican these days[/QUOTE]

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    Not for a minute… today’s “republicans” do not hold the same values of old. Now they are a party of “divide and conquer”. The goal is to divide the country, make it difficult to vote and take over the government…. Jan 6th debacle, tried to get military to seize ballot boxes …and current gerrymandering. IMO the republican party is now in name only. In reality it is promoting neo-natzism.

    Neo-Nazis employ their ideology to promote hatred and white supremacy, attack racial and ethnic minorities (which include antisemitism and Islamophobia), and in some cases to create a fascist state.

    Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy……. The current “republicans” touting they won sometimes even before votes are counted and those who refuse to admit defeat (trump) are examples of those desiring dictator status.

    Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting. Wikipedia

    Look at the definitions…. this is what the current “republicans” are promoting. JFK would never be what is now considered a “republican”.

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    Here is a good quick take from Reuters on the affidavit:

    https://twitter.com/ReutersLegal/sta...60658422317059

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