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    Quote Originally Posted by KayLR View Post
    I think it's a riot that Mayor Pete's smirk is even a thing, considering the behavior we put up with for 4 years with DJT.
    Maybe if he occasionally through his lunch against the wall he would seem more human…

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Maybe if he occasionally through his lunch against the wall he would seem more human…
    "through his lunch"?

    He does seem like someone who could be an alien. Same with Jared Kushner.

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    Interesting. I like these three paragraphs:

    Sizable majorities of Americans desperately want traditional liberal measures like universal health care and economic fairness. But actually, existing liberalism, with its air of upper-crust contempt and its top-down moralism, rubs this deeply democratic nation exactly the wrong way.

    These things are obvious when viewed from a certain distance, but liberals, intoxicated by their own righteousness, can never figure it out. They keep expecting the right to die off, as if poisoned by its diet of wickedness, and yet the Republicans persist, dreaming up new culture wars against the “liberal elite,” radicalizing themselves continually along the way, refusing to succumb.

    And what do liberals do? We dig in. We cheer for our side, we cheer some more, we demand that everyone else also cheer. We react hysterically to bad news, we refuse any analysis that doesn’t begin by ascribing Satanism to the G.O.P., and we go on Twitter to scold those who don’t measure up to our standards in some way. This is not strategy. It is fandom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Interesting. I like these three paragraphs:
    Sizable majorities of Americans desperately want traditional liberal measures like universal health care and economic fairness. But actually, existing liberalism, with its air of upper-crust contempt and its top-down moralism, rubs this deeply democratic nation exactly the wrong way.

    These things are obvious when viewed from a certain distance, but liberals, intoxicated by their own righteousness, can never figure it out. They keep expecting the right to die off, as if poisoned by its diet of wickedness, and yet the Republicans persist, dreaming up new culture wars against the “liberal elite,” radicalizing themselves continually along the way, refusing to succumb.

    And what do liberals do? We dig in. We cheer for our side, we cheer some more, we demand that everyone else also cheer. We react hysterically to bad news, we refuse any analysis that doesn’t begin by ascribing Satanism to the G.O.P., and we go on Twitter to scold those who don’t measure up to our standards in some way. This is not strategy. It is fandom.
    Thank you for giving this excerpt Catherine because I’m from the basket, you know, it contains deplorables, and we do not subscribe to the a New York Times.

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    Sizable majorities of Americans desperately want traditional liberal measures like universal health care and economic fairness. But actually, existing liberalism, with its air of upper-crust contempt and its top-down moralism, rubs this deeply democratic nation exactly the wrong way.
    I never know who they are even talking about. I think it's a big mistake that keeps being made to conflate politicians, (Dem) voters, and activists. Then occasionally an academic etc. who has little relevance to anything gets thrown in.

    I mean sure an individual can be more than one thing (walk and chew gum). But by and large these are separate groups, most Dem voters no matter how straight a party line they vote, are neither politicians or regular activists, activists don't necessarily hold or even run for office though sometimes they do, most politicians probably vote but aren't necessarily much aligned with activist demands at all.

    If we mean Dem party politicians, the upper-crust contempt is because they literally are upper-crust. They don't relate to the average person because they aren't and probably don't even socialize much with anyone who is. Congress is made up of rich people. Both parties. And they don't seem to be doing much for anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Thank you for giving this excerpt Catherine because I’m from the basket, you know, it contains deplorables, and we do not subscribe to the a New York Times.
    Yes, amazing we get along, considering I'm an out-of-touch East Coast liberal elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Thank you for giving this excerpt Catherine because I’m from the basket, you know, it contains deplorables, and we do not subscribe to the a New York Times.
    Which of the four deplorables are you?

    1 - racist
    2 - sexist
    3 - homophobic
    4 - Islamaphobic


    Hillary Clinton: “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Which of the four deplorables are you?

    1 - racist
    2 - sexist
    3 - homophobic
    4 - Islamaphobic

    Hillary Clinton: “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
    I don’t know nor care although I’m sure you will tell me which category I qualify for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I don’t know nor care although I’m sure you will tell me which category I qualify for.
    That is the problem.

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