I read the Trans Day of Vengeance (whatever that is) will be Friday of this week. I continue to wonder why we care what people's sex organs are. It's really nobody's business.
I read the Trans Day of Vengeance (whatever that is) will be Friday of this week. I continue to wonder why we care what people's sex organs are. It's really nobody's business.
I had to look up Molon labe. yes, I ‘spose.
I listened to a six hour podcast called “The Witch Trials of JK Rowling” that included interviews with Rowling, her supporters, her fans and former fans, her deniers, and some historians knowledgeable about mob hysteria and witches. it was a very well done production of Megan Phelps- Roper. Megan Phelps is from a famous family, yes THAT Phelps family, the Westboro Baptist church.
She overthrew the reins of her family’s influence and became a journalist, a very hard-working journalist. This podcast was put out by the Free Press a new organization trying to get away from mainstream news problems.
Megan Phelps, due to her early indoctrination, now strives to present information that is entirely truthful and sincere. I admired her for how she told that reasonable people who used to engage her when she was marching with Westboro gradually helped her see the error of her position. By the way, her family is full of attorneys, she said they were 13 in her extended family, including her mother.
My takeaways from this very thoughtful production are:
* J. K. Rowling is a strong feminist who comes to those ideas through feminist theory of the 1970s plus
* she has read widely on the trans gender issue, all “sides “lots of social media & academic journals, etc. A wide range.
* she did not want to become involved in the social dialogue about trans issues, but because she saw too many people lose their jobs, lose their livelihood, lose writing jobs and board positions and etc.m for speaking in “transphobic” ways she spoke up
* she is very concerned about the authoritarian left shutting down free speech
* she considers herself a progressive lefty
* she believes eroding of “women “as a unique biological entity will bring harm to women in many ways
* she’s adamant that men who have not spent some time transitioning should not be incarcerated with women or allowed in women’s spaces
I’m convinced she is sincere, and she’s absolutely right about the authoritarian actions and shutting down of free speech.
I don’t know how the “women’s spaces “thing is going to shake out, so I’m not so much on board with that but can see her points.
It was very sad to hear all the Harry Potter fans, kids eho grow up deep in that world, who feel abandoned and hurt by J. K. Rowling‘s seemingly inconsistent worldview now. Rowling says her worldview hasn’t changed, that Harry Potter and his colleagues were shown to search for truth, transparency, and openness and that is what brought many of the dark forces to light in the books.
Widespread medicalized treatment of minors for transition is wrong, especially when done without thorough mental health evaluation. The affirmation model is wrong. Cutting off breasts, stunting physical development, making permanent, irrevocable changes to children’s bodies is wrong. They cannot understand long term consequences nor give informed consent.Originally Posted by pinkytoe
Sure, adult can do whatever they like, and they do.
I am agreeing with you a lot lately IL).
Yet we allow circumcision. Of infants. Who have NO voice in it at all. And we allow parents or doctors to "decide" on the sex of an infant who is born with both male and female reproductive elements. Not saying I'm for or against - I am not sure there's enough real evidence to decide this easily. If a young trans person is denied "gender affirming care" are they more likely to be at risk for depression, drug abuse, suicide? Do those count as risks for NOT allowing gender affirming care? And if care is withheld on the grounds of harm, what is the rationale for denying the use of personal pronouns? Is that harmful the the young person in question? Or is it just an affront to the hard right? I don't see this as all that clear on either side, but I see no excuse for NOT allowing the kids to determine their pronouns, for heaven's sake!!
Kids can determine their pronouns, who gives a fk, just as they can determine their hair color, their nickname, their real name, and if they want to consider their gender “Butterfly” OK that’s fine. No one cares, it’s when they start carving up their bodies or making permanent changes to bone, muscle, etc. with cross sex hormones or hormone blockers, that’s when it’s a concern to me.
Thoughtful parents are rethinking the whole circumcision thing. With circumcision or medical lysed, trans fission, all I want is thoughtful educated parents guiding their kids. If every child had that it would be a great thing. That is one of the main complaints of a whistleblower here in St. Louis, that her gender clinic treated street kids, and they had no one in the corner to give sage advice, and they got so juch bad medicine practiced on them.
You are behind the times if you think current medical practice is to assign a sex to babies with ambiguous genitalia. That practice went out the window 20–30 years ago, maybe 40 years now. That old practice was “The Science” and it maimed people.
But people DO care, some of them, and are passing laws saying teachers are not allowed to use gender pronouns if they don't match the birth-recorded gender of their students. THAT is a problem. If I understand you to be saying that THOUGHTFUL PARENTS should be allowed to work with their children to get them gender-affirming care, then I totally agree with you. I also agree there should be no surgery to change physical presentations of gender before the legal age of consent, and I would not at all be against mandated NON RELIGIOUS counseling prior to any such surgery - which many surgeons already require (but I don't know if that's a law or just following best practice). But saying parents have the right to determine what schools teach, impacting kids other than their own, but don't have the right to seek appropriate gender care for their own child is just wrong.Kids can determine their pronouns, who gives a fk, just as they can determine their hair color, their nickname, their real name, and if they want to consider their gender “Butterfly” OK that’s fine. No one cares, it’s when they start carving up their bodies or making permanent changes to bone, muscle, etc. with cross sex hormones or hormone blockers, that’s when it’s a concern to me.
yes, agreed, lawmakers need to stay out of it.
I would like the medical community and the parenting community to do a better job.
Oh, it's still assigned, in most cases. Just with much more thought, hopefully!You are behind the times if you think current medical practice is to assign a sex to babies with ambiguous genitalia.
"The first step of management is to identify the cause of atypical genitalia. Then, your baby’s healthcare provider will put together a treatment plan and sex assignment based on hormone tests and other test results."
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...uous-genitalia
And YES, lawmakers do need to stay out of it!
I think it’s not a good idea for our President Joe Biden to joke about the Nashville shootings, but no doubt those here will disagree.
I think it’s even stupider for his administration to cater to those in the “trans aligned space” by sympathizing with how hard the trans community has it because one of their own killed children in a Nashville school. I conclude from reviewing mutterings from that “trans aligned space” that it’s quite difficult for that community to hear Audrey Hale being called by her birth name. Very painful. The name calling probably is the most horrific thing to come out of the Nashville tragedy.
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