Why NOT to vote Republican

[Alan]

trump also increased the debt by 25% ... more than any president and still the democrats did not threaten as the current "republicans" are doing. Shameful!

I don't think any party is blameless in acquiring debt. During the tail end of the last administration there was bipartisan support for extraordinary spending in support of the Covid pandemic, all financed with borrowed money, but in terms of real money, the increase in debt was less than the previous administration.

I think the real question here is just how much additional debt we're willing to accept just as a matter of course. Some seem to think it's no big deal to continue at the the extraordinary rate we're at now, others disagree. Each party uses the possibility of default to both influence total spending and as a political cudgel against their opponents, so there's nothing new there.

But, to go back to your earlier comment, the fact is that Republicans in the House (which is constitutionally responsible for initiating all government spending) have already dealt with the default issue and the Democrats in the Senate and Oval Office are trying to frame it otherwise. Nothing new there either.

[frugal-one]

I think the real issue here is that republicans are trying to hold the current administration hostage if they don’t do what they want. Whereas, the debt limit has always been increased when needed. Hell for trump it was increased 4 times!

[Rogar]

It seems that no one really knows how much debt is too much, but every administration tries to test the limits.

[Alan]

I think the real issue here is that republicans are trying to hold the current administration hostage if they don’t do what they want. Whereas, the debt limit has always been increased when needed. Hell for trump it was increased 4 times!

And it will be increased this time too, if the Democrats allow it. It may not be raised as high as they want but it will prevent default, if that's the actual goal.

[frugal-one]

The actual goal is to stop republicans from being hostage takers and do what ALL others before them have done….instead of changing the rules. This is setting a terrible situation for the future as well.

[Alan]

The actual goal is to stop republicans from being hostage takers and do what ALL others before them have done…

They've already done it! There will be no default if Democrats in the Senate and Oval Office sign off. For the very life of me I can't understand why you think if there is a default, it's the republicans fault.

[frugal-one]

Sign off on what the republicans insist be done... that is hostage taking.... no others have done this. If there is a default is because the democrats refuse to be taken hostage.

[Alan]

Sign off on what the republicans insist be done... that is hostage taking.... no others have done this. If there is a default is because the democrats refuse to be taken hostage.

The House of Representatives has a constitutional responsibility to initiate and approve all federal spending. They do not have a duty to simply sign off on everything the Executive branch requests, that isn't hostage taking.

It appears that you may have mis-spoke when you blamed republicans for a potential default, you're actually complaining that the House is doing its duty as a check on Executive power.

And it has been done before, it's called compromise.

[bae]

Wow.

[jp1]

Wow.

Nothing quite says ‘making America great again’ like blowing up the world’s economy if one doesn’t get every single ****ing thing on one’s legislative wish list in the process. But since we’re talking about the political party that was literally willing to overthrow the entire United States government when they didn’t get their way in the last presidential election I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised. And since even ‘rational (LOL)’ people in that party find it not just acceptable to continue voting for the people who participated in that attempt to overthrow the government, but something to be outwardly PROUD of, why should we be at all surprised that they are all 110% behind supporting these ugly people who hate America and want to burn it all down if they don’t get their way?