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    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wire...eral-100257488

    This is frightening. I don't care what the situation is. Can politicians and their enforcers gaining access to medical records resist the temptation to use them as retribution or punishment for political gain? I certainly would not trust my governor now presidential candidate DeSantis.

    Patients are rightfully frightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wire...eral-100257488

    This is frightening. I don't care what the situation is. Can politicians and their enforcers gaining access to medical records resist the temptation to use them as retribution or punishment for political gain? I certainly would not trust my governor now presidential candidate DeSantis.

    Patients are rightfully frightened.
    you are wise to be suspicious of government overreach in obtaining and using any personal information, any government of any level be it the feds or the state.

    But in answer to your question yes apparently governmental entities can obtain patient health information through exclusions in HIPPA and also through the abomination known as the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act was signed, sealed delivered and affirmed by your favorite Democrats as well as Republicans so everyone had their hand in creating this monstrosity.

    But they don’t even need to get court orders to use personal information in a threatening way. We can all remember the Obama goons at the IRS harassing politically conservative organizations through their tool of taxation. Did any IRS heads roll for that fiasco? President Obama had the power to do that, but I doubt that he did it.

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    I was genuinely surprised to see the presence of “Gays Against Groomers” at the downtown St. Louis Pride event last weekend. The news showed a video clip, and I was gratified to see they were young people, well, at least they weren’t old like me, and some of them were young enough to be my granddaughters. There was about six or seven shown in the video clip, and they were respectful and just making their presence known.

    i’m not sure if this would be considered harassment and counted as one of the 346 instances of violence against the LGBT community currently being measured. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is marked down in that “hate action” column. Whatever.


    To refresh everyone’s memory, Gays Against Groomers object to medicalized transition of minors who believe they are transgender.

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    The Anti Defamation League paired up with GLAAD to count incidents of crimes against the LGBTQ, etc. community. They counted 356 cases in 9 months.

    https://www.adl.org/anti-lgbtq-hate-...-and-extremism

    I wonder if the trans activist who came after the Tennessee leader of Gays Against Groomers with a broken bottle will be reported as a hate crime? This happened in downtown St. Louis a few days ago.

    Why wouldn’t it be reported, it’s a harassing threat against an LGBT, etc. person? Seems logical to me. The Tennessee leader Micki Cutler talked about her interaction with that trans activist in a Twitter video which I am unable to link to.

    I actually think it’s useful to have some sort of accounting mechanism since we hear all the time about the hate crimes against the LGBT community. I’m just not sure the methodology is sound, though. Fact is, as I look through the reporting form, it is pretty unsound.

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    So, I was at a Master Gardener meeting at the local library, which I'm sure has a very small patronage, given the population of the town (939). We were talking about doing basic botany for kids, and one of our MGs who is also on the library board mentioned off-handedly that the drag queen story hour is by far the most popular offering the library has for kids.

    Just sayin'

    I have no idea what the content of this offering is, and given that this county in VT is very split liberal/conservative, now I'm curious. I may steal a grandkid and check it out the next time it comes around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    So, I was at a Master Gardener meeting at the local library, which I'm sure has a very small patronage, given the population of the town (939). We were talking about doing basic botany for kids, and one of our MGs who is also on the library board mentioned off-handedly that the drag queen story hour is by far the most popular offering the library has for kids.

    Just sayin'

    I have no idea what the content of this offering is, and given that this county in VT is very split liberal/conservative, now I'm curious. I may steal a grandkid and check it out the next time it comes around.

    yes, no doubt. I saw a video of Drag Queen Story Hour at the St. Louis Public library downtown facility, which is always hard to get families to because parking is a bitch, and it was a big audience. With all the publicity surrounding it, why wouldn’t it be?

    this facility does not have rubber swings attached to the ceiling, or sturdy enough Infrastructure to attach a pole for, you know, pole dancing, and bare bottom swing performances. I imagine all they’re doing is reading to children, kind of boring, but they probably pass out business cards inviting everyone to their “family friendly “ (NOT) shows.

    The queens are making coin these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The queens are making coin these days.
    You know I've always wondered what the purpose of Drag Queen Story Hour might be, but I think you may have it right. Libraries and suburban moms get to virtue signal on the public dime and Drag Queens get favorable advertising. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    You know I've always wondered what the purpose of Drag Queen Story Hour might be, but I think you may have it right. Libraries and suburban moms get to virtue signal on the public dime and Drag Queens get favorable advertising. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!
    I honestly do not know if drag queens are being paid at the St. Louis public library. All that nonsense started after I retired. We had a tradition of dignitaries and celebrities like Cardinals baseball players presenting story hours, and they were, of course, volunteers. But if it’s billed as a program rather than a plain vanilla story hour, they may be paid because there’s a budget for that.

    Regardless of whether they’re being paid at the library, I know that the huge popularity and media attention to drag queens performing for children has led to them forming companies and putting together things like Drag queen Brunch and Drag queen Bingo, all billed as “family friendly. “ That’s very common. They also give performances in public schools and I know they’re paid for that.

    Being a drag queen you might work two or three nights out of the week for what, a hundred bucks? And free drinks. Unless you were a headliner, you weren’t paying rent with that money and probably even headliners in St. Louis weren’t paying their rent. But now they have day jobs as well, doubling their performing opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    You know I've always wondered what the purpose of Drag Queen Story Hour might be, but I think you may have it right. Libraries and suburban moms get to virtue signal on the public dime and Drag Queens get favorable advertising. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!
    I think that drag queens are probably far better performers/enteratiners than introverted writers blandly reading to hyper-sensitized children's brains and that may be all it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I think that drag queens are probably far better performers/enteratiners than introverted writers blandly reading to hyper-sensitized children's brains and that may be all it is.
    I’m curious to know why you think our youth librarians would have introverted persons blandly reading? You’ve got be a bit theatrical in that situation, drag queen or not.

    One time I nearly had to give a story hour back 30 years ago when one of our youth librarians took sick, but fortunately someone came to my rescue. I can’t do that. The idea still horrifies me.

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