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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    no, I don’t think you do.
    Then you need to do some self reflecting because it's pretty clear to the rest of us. And it's not pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Haha!

    The Bud Light fiasco for me has ALWAYS been about this broad Alissa Heinersheid and her highly insulting words about her customers and her fake concern about “kindness and goodness” and most especially her virtue signaling to her fancy friends in New York City. And then AB followed her by making stupid ads, non-apology statements, and “explanation” tours by the CEO.
    It’s the sort of scene Tom Wolfe might have written, isn’t it? The flack for a cheap beer brand seeing herself as a sort of missionary to the great unwoke, and the hysterical aftermath.

    Where is the Tom Wolfe for the current generation? There is certainly no lack of comic material. Are they (or the publishers) afraid of getting cancelled?

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    In free speech restrictions and cancelations this month:

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...itics-4248029#

    The woke brigade in a Yorkshire library has removed standard recent works by respected gender critical mainstream authors. I’m not surprised. I saw book challenges come from both “sides” of a political issue in my library.

    A Seattle popculture museum has removed J. K. Rowling’s name from their exhibit about Harry Potter books. The greatest publishing phenomenon of the past 50 years, and not only only that but an important contribution to children’s literature. Author cancelled.

    “In the wake of the controversy, the Museum of Pop Culture curators decided to remove Rowling's name and likeness from various galleries to "reduce her impact." The blog post adds that "it's not a perfect solution, but it's what we were able to do in the short-term while determining long-term practices."

    Though memorabilia from the Harry Potter films is still included in the "Fantasy: Worlds of Myth and Magic" gallery, the author is no longer cited in the exhibit. “

    https://ew.com/celebrity/j-k-rowling...trans-remarks/


    College professor in the UK silenced, told not to talk about her gender, critical research, etc. etc., the usual stuff.
    https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/ha...ritical-views/

    That’s just this week, all these incidents.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I wonder about people who can get so upset about a beer company's random marketing …
    you don’t understand how important Budweiser is in my town. Now Billy Busch is offering to buy back the brand from the idiot Brazilians. I doubt that Billy has the Dinero, and he’s kind of a drunken asshole himself, but I appreciate the gesture, we all do.

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    Derrick Jensen was supposed to speak on environmental topics at a panel in September, something he is eminently qualified to do, and they cancelled him because he also speaks out on radical feminism, including gender critical topics. His career has gone the way of J.K. Rowling's.

    I do not agree with many of his assertions, but I feel badly that people will lose out on the benefit of his insights on the environment because he is being cancelled everywhere on an unrelated issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post

    Where is the Tom Wolfe for the current generation? There is certainly no lack of comic material. Are they (or the publishers) afraid of getting cancelled?
    That's an intriguing question. We'd have to first find enough readers in the "current generation" who have read Tom Wolfe. They might have a ready answer about his successors. My guess is they're out there, but I'm on the wrong side of the hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simone View Post
    That's an intriguing question. We'd have to first find enough readers in the "current generation" who have read Tom Wolfe. They might have a ready answer about his successors. My guess is they're out there, but I'm on the wrong side of the hill.
    My daughter is of the current generation, but most of the literature she reads is from the 11th Century or earlier. Heck, her apartment was built about the same year Middle English started becoming Modern English. Maybe they snuck some Wolfe in during her schooling, but, doubtful. Now, she has some rather startling opinions on the work of Máel Muire mac Céilechair.

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    There seems to be a certain fear out there of mocking the reigning pieties, especially in publishing and film. Or even for expressing heterodox opinions unrelated to a writer’s work.

    Look at the fun you could have with that incident in Colorado (why is that state so dedicated to thought policing?) where a kid got pulled out of class because of the Gadsen flag patch on his backpack. Apparently the school believed that flag to have “origins in slavery”., and therefore a threat to the safety of their students. Will anyone stand up to that kind of idiocy with even a single joke on late night television?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Look at the fun you could have with that incident in Colorado (why is that state so dedicated to thought policing?) where a kid got pulled out of class because of the Gadsen flag patch on his backpack. Apparently the school believed that flag to have “origins in slavery”., and therefore a threat to the safety of their students. Will anyone stand up to that kind of idiocy with even a single joke on late night television?
    My local news said that it wasn't the Gadsen flag so much, but the fact that it was surrounded by numerous patches of assault weapons. Once the assault weapon patches were removed, he was allowed to keep the flag patch and return to class (after a lot of media attention). That's the news I got anyway. Thought police and violation of the first amendment in that case? Someone somewhere distorted the facts to make a political statement. There's another side to the distorted original story, but there's always the question of who to believe.

    We can blame the biased media for much of the social fear and anger.

    On August 29th The Vanguard School sent this statement:
    “There has been National media attention on our charter school, The Vanguard School, related to a student having the Gadsden flag on his backpack. Unfortunately, this story is incomplete. The patch in question was part of half a dozen other patches of semi-automatic weapons. The student has removed the semi-automatic patches. As a school district, we will continue to ensure all students and employees can learn and work in a safe and nurturing environment. The student returned to class without incident after removing the patches of semi-automatic weapons from the backpack. The Vanguard School and Harrison School District 2 worked in collaboration to resolve this matter.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    My local news said that it wasn't the Gadsen flag so much, but the fact that it was surrounded by numerous patches of assault weapons. Once the assault weapon patches were removed, he was allowed to keep the flag patch and return to class (after a lot of media attention). That's the news I got anyway. Thought police and violation of the first amendment in that case? Someone somewhere distorted the facts to make a political statement. There's another side to the distorted original story, but there's always the question of who to believe.

    We can blame the biased media for much of the social fear and anger.

    On August 29th The Vanguard School sent this statement:
    “There has been National media attention on our charter school, The Vanguard School, related to a student having the Gadsden flag on his backpack. Unfortunately, this story is incomplete. The patch in question was part of half a dozen other patches of semi-automatic weapons. The student has removed the semi-automatic patches. As a school district, we will continue to ensure all students and employees can learn and work in a safe and nurturing environment. The student returned to class without incident after removing the patches of semi-automatic weapons from the backpack. The Vanguard School and Harrison School District 2 worked in collaboration to resolve this matter.”
    After the school’s board of directors forced them to let the kid keep the flag patch, they began emphasizing the gun images: an infringement on free speech they could agree on.

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