A Palestinian State

[gimmethesimplelife]

I stand with Israel. Rob

[Yppej]

My mother's first memories are of the bombing of Dresden - of running to hide in bomb shelters, of seeing the results of bombs that shrunk people's bodies (one man she remembers was carrying two suitcases - one holding his dead wife and one his dead child), of smelling the horrible stench. She has suffered from anxiety her entire life. She has irritable bowel syndrome, OCD, and other anxiety disorders. Her older sister was for many years an alcoholic. The older sister had it worse because she was old enough to remember her father, who was killed fighting for Germany (and not willingly, he was conscripted). Do the people who elect a government bear any culpability? What if they're too young to vote? What if they're toddlers?

[catherine]

My mother's first memories are of the bombing of Dresden - of running to hide in bomb shelters, of seeing the results of bombs that shrunk people's bodies (one man she remembers was carrying two suitcases - one holding his dead wife and one his dead child), of smelling the horrible stench. She has suffered from anxiety her entire life. She has irritable bowel syndrome, OCD, and other anxiety disorders. Her older sister was for many years an alcoholic. The older sister had it worse because she was old enough to remember her father, who was killed fighting for Germany (and not willingly, he was conscripted). Do the people who elect a government bear any culpability? What if they're too young to vote? What if they're toddlers?

How horrible, Jeppy. This is why I said I feel equally bad for the Israelis and the Palestinians. Both are bound to suffer horribly. The people and the governments are not one and the same.

[Portuguese John Here]

On one hand, I don't support bombing a place where 50% of the population are children's. The world should be ashamed for allowing Israel to do such a thing. I don't support bombing anything actually, but, that's how the world works. There's a famous story about the first British that arrived in India. The people living there were doing a famous ritual, called sutte; once the husband died, they'd burn his wife alive in the middle of the village.

The British arrived there, and saw what was about to happen, reached the locals, and they said "You have to respect our traditions", to which the British replied "Well, you're right, we'll respect your tradition". The British gathered the entire armada, and placed it right in front of that village, then they went to the locals and said: "We'll respect your tradition, and you'll respect ours, which is: We'll bomb every single one of you, because where we came from, that's what we do if someone does what you're about to do."

I think the Palestinians deserve their right to self-determination, they've seen their territory taken away, while the entire planet didn't blink and eye. For every bombing Israel does, families they destroy, children's they kill, more boy soldiers join Hamas, which means, more violence incoming, more vengeance. The jews in Israel, I believe much more than 50% agree on a two-state solution, although, their prime minister is a radical. While we're condemning Palestine, this was exactly what he wanted, a reason to bomb and kill every single one of them, and advance to conquer more, and more territory. It'll reach a state, Palestinians will be refugees. I only hope the Emirates stop the deal they're about to make with Israel.

On the other hand, I wouldn't want to see an Islamic world emerging in power, I don't like their traditions, and how they view the world.

[iris lilies]

In simplistic terms this expresses what I think:


… "If the Arabs put down their weapons, there'd be peace. If the Jews put down their weapons, there'd be no more Jews in the Middle East."
…James Kirchick

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In simplistic terms this expresses what I think:


… "If the Arabs put down their weapons, there'd be peace. If the Jews put down their weapons, there'd be no more Jews in the Middle East."
…James Kirchick

Yep. Sounds like a lot of people want the latter. Amazing how acceptable anti-semetism still is among many people. I never got that one.

[Tybee]

I agree that anti-Semitism is everywhere right now and colors this whole dilemma. My heart breaks for Israel.

[iris lilies]

I agree that anti-Semitism is everywhere right now and colors this whole dilemma. My heart breaks for Israel.

A lot of today’s yammering is antisemitism, that’s for sure. But a lot of it is anti-Israeli government, and I don’t buy that as antisemitism, that’s too easy a label.

[LDAHL]

I see a second carrier strike group is heading to the eastern Mediterranean. Iran is threatening to intervene if Israel moves into Gaza.

[Yppej]

I see a second carrier strike group is heading to the eastern Mediterranean. Iran is threatening to intervene if Israel moves into Gaza.

We say we don't want the conflict to widen, yet we send warships.