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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Personally I’d love to hear you justify and explain how we didn’t hear what we all heard in trump’s recent vermin statement.
    Thank You, jp1. I wanted to post something similar in reply but I just couldn't deal with it. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    LOL, I stopped paying attention to things Trump says some time ago so I'm not sure if I find whatever you're referencing to be acceptable or not. I did read somewhere that he's suggested that if it's acceptable to weaponize the DOJ and various states AG's against him then it might be justified to return the favor. Is that what you're referencing? If not, let me know what he's said and I'll let you know what I think without you having to speculate.
    The problem here, one that to yours truly is beyond horrific and is a glaring advertisement that the United States is no longer good enough for decent people - Austria too was guilty of not listening, not looking, not observing when Germany took them over at the cost of untold thousands of Austrian deaths. Why the free pass to a politician using Hilterian dictator rhetoric? The willfull ingnoring of the increasing instability/authoritarian behavior Trump is spewing - the letting Trump get away with this evil and inhumane language/ And what does this say about you, personally, that you, like most Austrians were, are willing to look the other way? Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    I can’t imagine EVER voting for trump unless you are into dictatorships!
    This is why I no longer believe that the United States is best served through remaining intact. These authoritarian types truly need their own nation in which they can get away with such behavior provided that their border is open and porous from those who might get a clue internally and wish to flee to the other side. (What's that saying - come to the Human Rights side, we have cookies). Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Personally I’d love to hear you justify and explain how we didn’t hear what we all heard in trump’s recent vermin statement.
    Sorry to reply to this late but I've been kinda busy the past few days preparing to meander south for the winter. I also hadn't heard anything about a "vermin statement" until just a few hours ago when I read about the outrage over Trump using a term that Hitler also used, and all of a sudden all the talk here about dictators, Nazi's, fascists and such sort of made sense in a convoluted sort of way. I can only hope that Hitler never said anything about ice cream, cause I really like ice cream.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Sorry to reply to this late but I've been kinda busy the past few days preparing to meander south for the winter. I also hadn't heard anything about a "vermin statement" until just a few hours ago when I read about the outrage over Trump using a term that Hitler also used, and all of a sudden all the talk here about dictators, Nazi's, fascists and such sort of made sense in a convoluted sort of way. I can only hope that Hitler never said anything about ice cream, cause I really like ice cream.
    It's funny how one's life experiences shape their older years, no? For your part you are aware of the Dictatorship/Hilterian rhetoric and it seems to be absolutely no big deal to you (please correct me if I am wrong).

    For my part I am seeing a period of roughtly a year to save save save save save as with this wanna be dictactor potentially returning to power - has this country even earned my presence? And yes, I do realize that I am not the most successful nor ambitious person out there - I am not someone another country will leap on other than for a retirement visa, likely - but the United States under dictator leadership is not to be borne. As a decent human being, should Trump be reelected, The United States truly is no longer good enough for me.

    Its looking more and more like Mexico - which would be the most practical and easiest transition for me plus I'd have ready made family across Mexico. But I'm digressing once again - my point?

    That which you see as no big deal to me is A HUGE UTTERLY NON NEGOTIABLE DEAL. I owe it to all those murdered by my ancestors in WW2 - there is no excuse for me to stay in such a country. To remain is to signal approval and I'm not capable of such. I'm just too decent of a human being.

    I will say one thing, Alan - you get to view this any way you care to, such is your right. I see your take of this being no big deal as a very effective advertisement that this country truly is too polarized and needs to split up somehow. I believe it would be for the best for both sides in this equation. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    It's funny how one's life experiences shape their older years, no? For your part you are aware of the Dictatorship/Hilterian rhetoric and it seems to be absolutely no big deal to you (please correct me if I am wrong).

    For my part I am seeing a period of roughtly a year to save save save save save as with this wanna be dictactor potentially returning to power - has this country even earned my presence? And yes, I do realize that I am not the most successful nor ambitious person out there - I am not someone another country will leap on other than for a retirement visa, likely - but the United States under dictator leadership is not to be borne. As a decent human being, should Trump be reelected, The United States truly is no longer good enough for me.

    Its looking more and more like Mexico - which would be the most practical and easiest transition for me plus I'd have ready made family across Mexico. But I'm digressing once again - my point?

    That which you see as no big deal to me is A HUGE UTTERLY NON NEGOTIABLE DEAL. I owe it to all those murdered by my ancestors in WW2 - there is no excuse for me to stay in such a country. To remain is to signal approval and I'm not capable of such. I'm just too decent of a human being.

    I will say one thing, Alan - you get to view this any way you care to, such is your right. I see your take of this being no big deal as a very effective advertisement that this country truly is too polarized and needs to split up somehow. I believe it would be for the best for both sides in this equation. Rob
    Thanks for that Rob, but it's not very helpful to me in trying to understand what makes you feel this way. It's not Trump because you've been making these same general statements for the past 15 or so years and you've absolutely ignored my recent request to tell me what exactly was said or done to trigger this latest round of "the US is not good enough for me" virtue signaling.

    You may be right that I think this (whatever it is) is no big deal, but that's only because it's been going on for so long and for so many different reasons. I'm sorry in case you may find this response crass or in-sensitive to your fears and that is absolutely not my intention. This may just be a case of neither of us being able to understand the other.
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    A double deflection Alan! I’m super impressed! And also saddened that you actually think you’re a defender of freedom when the reality is that you’re totally ok with fascism as long as it’s team red doing the fascing. But thanks for confirming. I won’t bother with my futile efforts of trying to get you to engage anymore since it’s clear that you actually don’t really want to beyond making jokes about the authoritarian thug that may become our last president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    A double deflection Alan! I’m super impressed! And also saddened that you actually think you’re a defender of freedom when the reality is that you’re totally ok with fascism as long as it’s team red doing the fascing. But thanks for confirming. I won’t bother with my futile efforts of trying to get you to engage anymore since it’s clear that you actually don’t really want to beyond making jokes about the authoritarian thug that may become our last president.
    Alan quits listening to what trump says because, as usual, his head is in the sand…. yet he probably will vote for him based solely on trump’s republican party affiliation. Sadly, trump is truly not a republican….

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Alan quits listening to what trump says because, as usual, his head is in the sand….
    LOL, I've been told that several times. Wait, that was you! I've been told that several times by you. I'm sure you wouldn't tell me that more than once if you didn't care about me, so thanks for that.

    yet he probably will vote for him based solely on trump’s republican party affiliation. Sadly, trump is truly not a republican….
    You're right, Trump is not a real republican, at least in my eyes. I think he's always been an opportunist Democrat as I've mentioned here several times over the last 6 or 7 years. I think he's also a narcissist who struggles with feelings of low self esteem while constantly battling with his huge ego.
    That said, I don't think he's a fascist or wannabe dictator as some of you insist he is, although the only good thing I can honestly say about him is that at least he's not a social or political leftist. I also think that if democrats didn't use 90% of their political capital trying to destroy him, he'd be a political non-starter at this point so I'll always resent the democrats a bit for keeping him relevant, so please don't expect me to reward them with my vote.
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    That is a joke Alan. Republicans are the ones promoting the hitler wanna be. You, on the other hand, are refusing to see what is right in front of you. Don’t listen and perhaps it will go away seems to be your creed now. Seems to be the way of voting republicans these days which will be the downfall of our democracy!

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