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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    If his last name wasn't biden the plea deal would've been finalized.
    If his last name weren't Biden, would his plea agreement include the promise of immunity from prosecution for any additional crimes which may come to light from the DOJ's admittedly "ongoing investigation"?

    If I recall correctly, and I'm pretty sure I do, that promise was included in the diversion section of the agreement, a section that normally is not required to be approved by a judge approving or denying the Plea Agreement section. It was only when the Judge questioned whether or not the prosecution had ever seen that sort of thing happen before, and they were forced to admit that No, they had not, did the entire agreement fall apart.

    Now, I'm not a legal scholar but it sure appeared to me that the prosecution attempted to shield Mr Biden from any additional crimes which may come up by memorializing that caveat in a section of a favorable plea agreement they did not expect the Judge to review. Is that the sort of thing anyone not named Biden can expect?
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    Voting Republican, after the recent Hitlerian rhetoric spewed by the presumed GOP candidate, in reality amounts to nothing more nor less than voting for a Third World Authoritarian Dictatorship, no better than a Banana Republic - and without the family values, slower pace of life, and colorful marketplaces. That simple, really. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I get confused over who the justice department is weaponized against. I’ve been told it’s against the GOP.
    I think in Hunter's case the DoJ chose to beat their swords into plowshares.

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    It seems weird that a prosecutor would offer a plea deal before the prosecutorial investigation was done. Why would a prosecutor do that, or a defendant accept a plea in that situation? That’s just not logical.

    For a prosecutor to rescind a plea deal one would assume that they have dramatic new evidence that they did t have before. Hunter’s attorney seems to be good at his job. I assume he’ll find out what that new evidence is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    It seems weird that a prosecutor would offer a plea deal before the prosecutorial investigation was done. Why would a prosecutor do that, or a defendant accept a plea in that situation? That’s just not logical.
    As David Harsanyi has pointed out, that plea agreement was not about Hunter, it was about Joe. https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/11...-hunter-biden/

    "Let’s not forget, either, that without the IRS whistleblowers coming forward, Hunter would probably have escapedany charges. And let’s also not forget that without U.S. District Court Judge Maryellen Noreika putting the kibosh on it, Weiss would have allowed Hunter’s lawyers to write an extraordinary plea agreement that not only would have ensured the president’s name wouldn’t be dragged into the investigation, but it would have let Hunter plead out to two of the least consequential charges — with virtually no punishment — in exchange for blanket immunity for a slew of serious potential offenses, including tax, gun, and drug crimes."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    As David Harsanyi has pointed out, that plea agreement was not about Hunter, it was about Joe. https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/11...-hunter-biden/

    "Let’s not forget, either, that without the IRS whistleblowers coming forward, Hunter would probably have escapedany charges. And let’s also not forget that without U.S. District Court Judge Maryellen Noreika putting the kibosh on it, Weiss would have allowed Hunter’s lawyers to write an extraordinary plea agreement that not only would have ensured the president’s name wouldn’t be dragged into the investigation, but it would have let Hunter plead out to two of the least consequential charges — with virtually no punishment — in exchange for blanket immunity for a slew of serious potential offenses, including tax, gun, and drug crimes."
    So the entire thing was not logical? It will be interesting to see how David Weiss, trump appointee, tries to justify this shitshow.

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    Supposedly the possibility of trump being prosecuted for Jan 6 is being sent to the supreme court therefore bypassing the lower courts. If this is true, we all know the outcome since he packed the supreme court. No doubt the hitler-wannabe will get away with his transgressions again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Supposedly the possibility of trump being prosecuted for Jan 6 is being sent to the supreme court therefore bypassing the lower courts. If this is true, we all know the outcome since he packed the supreme court. No doubt the hitler-wannabe will get away with his transgressions again.
    Is this what you are talking about?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...ion-rcna127519

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    So the entire thing was not logical? It will be interesting to see how David Weiss, trump appointee, tries to justify this shitshow.
    Given that Weiss was one of the very few US Attorneys not fired by the Biden Administration, and his subsequent appointment as Special Counsel, I find it hard to believe the implication that he’s some sort of Trump operative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Given that Weiss was one of the very few US Attorneys not fired by the Biden Administration, and his subsequent appointment as Special Counsel, I find it hard to believe the implication that he’s some sort of Trump operative.
    Yes, especially considering that he was recommended for the position by both of Delaware's Democratic Senators who enjoyed a long standing veto power over appointments within their state.
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