Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
There seem to be two primary arguments against maintaining better control over who can enter and stay in this country. The first is the emotional “nation of immigrants” argument. Often made by the sort of people who mobilized the National Guard when exasperated Texans sent a few busloads of immigrants their way. I would argue that being in a position to decide who gets in allows us to then argue over how generous we want to be. The second is the fear that we will lose an economically valuable serf class if we discourage illegal immigration. I would think that we could address that through some sort of guest worker program. But once again, we would need to maintain some level of control over who comes in for such a program to work.

Right. I have nothing against documenting on a temporary and controllable basis people who pick my strawberries. This assumes of course that it WILL be controlled. Protests in England this year showed the controllers are not controlling according to the promises they made when elected.England has an immigration problem , real or perceived, but certainly an issue to large swaths of their population.


I don’t even mind if Gavin Newsom extends social services benefits to those strawberry pickers, state funded services of course. California is rich and can afford it.