If they cut social security and medicare

[frugal-one]

I am sorry Federal employees are being intimidated. Showing up on time appropriately dressed and getting right to work seems…ok to me. Is that really burdensome for them? Is there a culture there that has embraced laxity?

While most employees are decent and do a decent job, perhaps a little pressure to straighten up will keep the, for instance, sexually explicit chat conversations off government servers and off the government’s dime.

The federal employees at the National Security Agency engaged in sex talk and much talk about their transgender medical treatments and gender transitions.

This New York Time article covers this fiasco. Keep in mind this is an agency that is supposed to understand security concerns. Yeah, I really want these bozos protecting my country. 100 officers were fired, as they should be.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/u...s-gabbard.html

exerpt from the article:

Long-serving U.S. civil servants said there was little doubt that some of what was posted was inappropriate for any workplace, much less a system in classified networks that is meant for intelligence sharing. At least one of the chat rooms involved was shut down last year, according to a U.S. official.

Bunch of malarkey!

[frugal-one]

I defend wholesale firings of 100 so called intelligence officers. If that isn’t what you mean by “wholesale” firing, be more specific.

oh, and due to the executive order that dismantled DEI and etc in the federal government, the “LGBTQ Affinity Groups” at the National Security agency were dismantled.*. To this I say, why ever did they exist? I mean, WTF?

* reported in the NYT article I linked above

You, obviously, don’t have a clue. What are you listening to or watching!

[iris lilies]

You, obviously, don’t have a clue. What are you listening to or watching!

Very specifically, I am talking about the 100 security/intelligence officers fired. Just those 100. Are you defending them?

[iris lilies]

Bunch of malarkey!

The New York Time is malarky?

well, haha, yeah maybe, it has been problematic for a long time.

[frugal-one]

Very specifically, I am talking about the 100 security/intelligence officers fired. Just those 100. Are you defending them?

Sounds like fake news. In the same vein that all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists propaganda.

[early morning]

I really am not sure of all the ins and outs of WEP - windfall elimination provision. I just know that the social security that would have been paid out for the 25+ years I worked in the private sector and paid into SS were discounted due to the 20 years I worked as a teacher and in county government. Since that was better paying, my retirement pension from county/state government is primary, and my SS was reduced due to that, by a formula I don't remember. So I was getting less SS than I would have received had I just quit working 25 years ago and started drawing at 65. I am fortunate that I have a pension, though - I'm well aware of that! It just annoyed me that I was getting less SS that what I paid in qualified me for. And it's not much! I'm also grateful for the WEP elimination, for however long it lasts

[iris lilies]

Sounds like fake news. In the same vein that all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists propaganda.

U serious bro? NYT has more than one article about this, and you think it is “fake news?”

Interesting.

Here are the first two paragraphs from the article in the New York Times, the latest article anyway. I’m not even sure this is a Trump initiative; Chris Ruffo somehow discovered these email messages and I’m not sure how.

“Intelligence officials are continuing to investigate sexually explicit messages that were posted on a government chat tool, the National Security Agency said Friday, exchanges that prompted the nation’s top intelligence official to order the firing of more than 100 officersthis week.
In a statement on Friday, a spokesman for the National Security Agency said the messages were posted on Intelink, a tool that the N.S.A. manages for the entire intelligence community.
“N.S.A. takes the allegations of recently identified misconduct on Intelink very seriously,” the spokesman said in a statement. “Behavior of this type will not be tolerated on this or any other N.S.A.-hosted system.”

[iris lilies]

I really am not sure of all the ins and outs of WEP - windfall elimination provision. I just know that the social security that would have been paid out for the 25+ years I worked in the private sector and paid into SS were discounted due to the 20 years I worked as a teacher and in county government. Since that was better paying, my retirement pension from county/state government is primary, and my SS was reduced due to that, by a formula I don't remember. So I was getting less SS than I would have received had I just quit working 25 years ago and started drawing at 65. I am fortunate that I have a pension, though - I'm well aware of that! It just annoyed me that I was getting less SS that what I paid in qualified me for. And it's not much! I'm also grateful for the WEP elimination, for however long it lasts

I never understood who determined which public institutions participated in WEP or how that participation was determined. I worked for public entities and we were not WEP.

[Rogar]

Very specifically, I am talking about the 100 security/intelligence officers fired. Just those 100. Are you defending them?

The only thing I got out of the NYT article was 100 people were fired for exchanging sexual explicit messages on a Government chat site. In my experience in zero tolerance corporate world, this could happen in any big organization and not a big deal out of 2 million government workers. It may or may not have anything to do with the remainder and vast majority of people working out of office or in the office, or hard working or slacking. Maybe someone cold point out if this is incorrect. To assume it's fake news is not obvious or without any substance as far as I can tell. The NYT would probably not report it without t least a little fact checking?

[iris lilies]

The only thing I got out of the NYT article was 100 people were fired for exchanging sexual explicit messages on a Government chat site. In my experience in zero tolerance corporate world, this could happen in any big organization and not a big deal out of 2 million government workers. It may or may not have anything to do with the remainder and vast majority of people working out of office or in the office, or hard working or slacking. Maybe someone cold point out if this is incorrect. To assume it's fake news is not obvious or without any substance as far as I can tell. The NYT would probably not report it without t least a little fact checking?

Yes, thank you. I cannot grok disbelieving the facts in this article. And also Yes, this N.S.A. employee caper should not be a distraction for the very real and serious event of thousands of federal employees being fired.

Can’t we have two thoughts in our heads at the same time?
1. Badly behaved N.S.A officers need to be canned
2. Thousands of federal employees RIFfed will have unfortunate consequences

That Tybee and frugal-one apparently embrace sex talk on the government dime and on servers tasked with our country’s security is just so odd to me.