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    I never understood who determined which public institutions participated in WEP or how that participation was determined. I worked for public entities and we were not WEP.
    yeah, I don't understand that either. When you were at the library, did you pay into SS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Sounds like fake news. In the same vein that all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists propaganda.
    It's not fake news and has been extensively reported through lots of news outlets, although I suspect Rachel Maddow may have skipped it. As for the "all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists propaganda", that is indeed propaganda, no one said that they were although many sources you're probably familiar with did their best to make you think they did. I guess they do that because it appears to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    yeah, I don't understand that either. When you were at the library, did you pay into SS?
    yes I paid into Social Security and I worked for three separate municipal libraries across multiple states during my career and none of them were affected by WEP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's not fake news and has been extensively reported through lots of news outlets, although I suspect Rachel Maddow may have skipped it. As for the "all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists propaganda", that is indeed propaganda, no one said that they were although many sources you're probably familiar with did their best to make you think they did. I guess they do that because it appears to work.

    Please show some sympathy for Rachel Maddow because her best friend, the racist Joy Reid, got canned and Rachel’s top staff have been eliminated from her team in a cost cutting measure. They’ve been RIFfed I guess you could say. Cost cutting staff—it is in the air and MSNBC is scrambling to adjust income to expenses.

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    I am trying to keep a daily gratitude journal as experiment. Experts say it helps ones mental happiness and well being, and I'm not immune to a little doom scrolling these days. If people still believe in science anymore. Normal entries are a little more serious, but today I was grateful not to be married to any likeness to Karoline Leavitt. I dated a similar at one time. She is head and shoulders above Maddow on the unbearably irritability scale. Not to mention veracity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Please show some sympathy for Rachel Maddow because her best friend, the racist Joy Reid, got canned and Rachel’s top staff have been eliminated from her team in a cost cutting measure.
    News organizations are businesses and their daily blocks of programming are the profit centers which keep everything running. When those profit centers lose 50% or more of their customer base and suddenly become cost centers somethings gotta give. In MSNBC's case, maybe they just need to provide a better, more trustworthy product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's not fake news and has been extensively reported through lots of news outlets, although I suspect Rachel Maddow may have skipped it. As for the "all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists propaganda", that is indeed propaganda, no one said that they were although many sources you're probably familiar with did their best to make you think they did. I guess they do that because it appears to work.
    trump just spewed this garbage in his disgusting diatribe tonight! I have to say, it was a sickening presentation of lies! I am sick of his constant chaos and sure it will only get worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's not fake news and has been extensively reported through lots of news outlets, although I suspect Rachel Maddow may have skipped it. As for the "all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists propaganda", that is indeed propaganda, no one said that they were although many sources you're probably familiar with did their best to make you think they did. I guess they do that because it appears to work.


    ▪ Unauthorized immigrants are criminals [said 575+ times], snakes that bite[35+ times], eating pets, coming from jails and mental institutions [560+ times],causing crime in sanctuary cities [185+ times], and a group of isolated, tragic cases prove they are killing Americans en masse [235+ times].
    ▪ They are stealing Americans’ public benefits [270+ times] and jobs [155+ times].
    ▪ He has to build a wall [675+], and mass deportations are acceptablebecause Eisenhower did it [50+ times].
    ▪ Unauthorized immigrants are criminals [said 575+ times], snakes that bite[35+ times], eating pets, coming from jails and mental institutions [560+ times],causing crime in sanctuary cities [185+ times], and a group of isolated, tragic cases prove they are killing Americans en masse [235+ times].
    ▪ They are stealing Americans’ public benefits [270+ times] and jobs [155+ times].
    ▪ He has to build a wall [675+], and mass deportations are acceptablebecause Eisenhower did it [50+ times].

    https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/10/21/fact-check-12000-trump-statements-
    immigrants#skip_anchor


    there are multiple speeches on you tube where he gave speeches saying illegal immigrants are murderers and rapists, are taking our jobs, poisoning our blood, it’s in their genes. Also countries are opening their prisons and emptying their mental institutions and sending the. Haitians are eating your pets.


    i am not for people illegally entering the country, or overstaying their visas. I don’t understand sanctuary cities. But I also disagree that claims the media is exaggerating claims when they are tapes of his speeches available on you tube with those phrases coming out of his mouth. Over and over. With the crowd roaring in response.


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    Trump's speech was for his MAGA supports who have already consumed the cool-aid and have bought into his con job. The NPR fact check pointed out several but said they were too numerous for the space provided. They narrowed the list to 20 things. Hopefully many of the rest of us realize he is a chronic liar who lets anger, fearmongering and vengeance manage his political talk and policy. He cannot be trusted for anything. From my standpoint we really don't need repeated reinforcement to understand that. It's still important to point out his deceptions.

    A favorite of mine, but of less importance, was when his press secretary said AP reporters have been denied access to certain discussions because they are lying. The lie she referred to was repeatedly incorrectly calling the Gulf of Mexico rather than America. Her lie about Biden causing the egg shortage is still a whopper.

    I emailed Trudeau yesterday and apologized for Trump and his supporters. Probably doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    ▪ Unauthorized immigrants are criminals [said 575+ times], snakes that bite[35+ times], eating pets, coming from jails and mental institutions [560+ times],causing crime in sanctuary cities [185+ times], and a group of isolated, tragic cases prove they are killing Americans en masse [235+ times].
    ▪ They are stealing Americans’ public benefits [270+ times] and jobs [155+ times].
    ▪ He has to build a wall [675+], and mass deportations are acceptablebecause Eisenhower did it [50+ times].
    ▪ Unauthorized immigrants are criminals [said 575+ times], snakes that bite[35+ times], eating pets, coming from jails and mental institutions [560+ times],causing crime in sanctuary cities [185+ times], and a group of isolated, tragic cases prove they are killing Americans en masse [235+ times].
    ▪ They are stealing Americans’ public benefits [270+ times] and jobs [155+ times].
    ▪ He has to build a wall [675+], and mass deportations are acceptablebecause Eisenhower did it [50+ times].

    https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/10/21/fact-check-12000-trump-statements-
    immigrants#skip_anchor


    there are multiple speeches on you tube where he gave speeches saying illegal immigrants are murderers and rapists, are taking our jobs, poisoning our blood, it’s in their genes. Also countries are opening their prisons and emptying their mental institutions and sending the. Haitians are eating your pets.


    i am not for people illegally entering the country, or overstaying their visas. I don’t understand sanctuary cities. But I also disagree that claims the media is exaggerating claims when they are tapes of his speeches available on you tube with those phrases coming out of his mouth. Over and over. With the crowd roaring in response.

    Thanks for taking the time to back up my observation that no one has said that "all illegals from Mexico are murderers and rapists". I'm sure if it had actually been said it would show up in your research somewhere.

    Of course there are multiple examples of murderers and rapists among the millions of illegal immigrants in the country and saying so doesn't mean that "all" fit that description. Claiming otherwise is simply propaganda.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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