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    I don't know what in the world is causing this trend in authoritarianism. But it's not just a US thing. I was just reading a Chris Hedges article about conservative right-wing Hindu majority trying to make Hinduism a national religion, and they are suppressing, and even have killed journalists who are reporting the truth about what's going on. And then there's Hungary, China and Russia. I think, unfortunately, Trump is shooting for membership in that club.

    I think the irony is that people give up the need to trust in the truth when they are offered easy solutions to complex problems by people who promise them a magic wand. Think those immigrants are taking something from you? Just deport all their asses. Have you been promised hope for a return to better days? Who cares if those promises are laced with lies? The pull to buy in is seductive when it costs you nothing but your suspension of disbelief.
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    Protests scheduled for tomorrow all over the country in protest of trump trying to get redistricting in TX (and elsewhere) AND unwarranted show of force by military on our streets. We all NEED to get out and show our displeasure of the current regime!

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    I don't know what in the world is causing this trend in authoritarianism.
    Historically, we seem to move in opposite directions now and then. I was reading about Jung's concept of enantiodromia which one could apply to current political changes. Hoping some equilibrium happens yet in my lifetime but it is hard to be hopeful at this moment in time.

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    Pinky toe, I had to look this up. How had I never learned that term??? Thank you for challenging my brain today.

    Enantiodromia is a principle introduced in the West by psychiatrist Carl Jung.
    In Psychological Types, Jung defines enantiodromia as "the emergence of the unconscious opposite in the course of time." It is similar to the principle of equilibrium in the natural world, in that any extreme is opposed by the system in order to restore balance. When things get to their extreme, they turn into their opposite. Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by nswef View Post
    Pinky toe, I had to look this up. How had I never learned that term??? Thank you for challenging my brain today.

    Enantiodromia is a principle introduced in the West by psychiatrist Carl Jung.
    In Psychological Types, Jung defines enantiodromia as "the emergence of the unconscious opposite in the course of time." It is similar to the principle of equilibrium in the natural world, in that any extreme is opposed by the system in order to restore balance. When things get to their extreme, they turn into their opposite. Wikipedia
    Haha! I looked it up, too! Word of the Day! Thanks for posting the definition, nswef. I do think enantiodromia makes sense--I think there's often a pendulum effect in a lot of things we do individually and as a culture.
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    Looked it up also. Should have kept reading! Feeling there will not be time for me to see the reversal. Hoping it is not too late for us all. Mother nature is showing her fury as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I don't know what in the world is causing this trend in authoritarianism. But it's not just a US thing. I was just reading a Chris Hedges article about conservative right-wing Hindu majority trying to make Hinduism a national religion, and they are suppressing, and even have killed journalists who are reporting the truth about what's going on. And then there's Hungary, China and Russia. I think, unfortunately, Trump is shooting for membership in that club.

    I think the irony is that people give up the need to trust in the truth when they are offered easy solutions to complex problems by people who promise them a magic wand. Think those immigrants are taking something from you? Just deport all their asses. Have you been promised hope for a return to better days? Who cares if those promises are laced with lies? The pull to buy in is seductive when it costs you nothing but your suspension of disbelief.
    One of the political pundints I’ve heard recently (and I don’t remember who at this point) made it clear in his writings that democratic rule and freedom of speech is NOT the natural state of man governing himself. It is a new and precious thing we have to consciously guard and protect. That road looks rocky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I don't know what in the world is causing this trend in authoritarianism. But it's not just a US thing. I was just reading a Chris Hedges article about conservative right-wing Hindu majority trying to make Hinduism a national religion, and they are suppressing, and even have killed journalists who are reporting the truth about what's going on. And then there's Hungary, China and Russia. I think, unfortunately, Trump is shooting for membership in that club.

    I think the irony is that people give up the need to trust in the truth when they are offered easy solutions to complex problems by people who promise them a magic wand. Think those immigrants are taking something from you? Just deport all their asses. Have you been promised hope for a return to better days? Who cares if those promises are laced with lies? The pull to buy in is seductive when it costs you nothing but your suspension of disbelief.
    Oh, yes, Modi is very Hindu nationalist. I have to hear all day long at work, when the owner is there, how wonderful India is. Gag. This is a country that had a caste system, has a bad record of treating women like trash, including killing them. The government at times will shut down the internet to certain areas.

    Then you’ve got Russia, China, and the Islamic countries.

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    I sometimes think that humans just aren't very smart as a species. We have such a beautiful planet and yet we continue to destroy it and each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    I sometimes think that humans just aren't very smart as a species. We have such a beautiful planet and yet we continue to destroy it and each other.
    Some people NEED to be destroyed.

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