For those of you chosing to remain in the United States.....

[iris lilies]

Choosing to remain in the US? What a crock of bullshit.

I think Rob considers himself someone who has chosen to leave the United States.

It’s just that we’ve been hearing that for decades now.

And bae’s suggestion is interesting. Portugal is a place people I know are fleeing to, that and Costa Rica. I don’t think Rob has ever mentioned Portugal. it might be a little too upscale for his pocketbook.

[Yossarian]

Probably will only keep the NG downtown. Probably won’t go to the actually ghetto. Just like DC.

^^This. I have a condo in the Loop. Downtown isn't Mayberry, but it's a tourist revenue mint and there are more police per capita than anywhere else I have lived. Having a few Guardsman standing around eyeing the bachelorettes in River North and taking selfies at the Bean isn't going to make a difference in the crime stats. I guess I don't care either way. But I'd be shocked if they made a long term commitment to the people who really need the help in Englewood or Garfield Park.

[bae]

Morelia? Patzcauro? That lake with the butterflies that is on the back of one of the Mexican banknotes? Rob

Near Uruapan, in the Purépechan Empire.

[bae]

And bae’s suggestion is interesting. Portugal is a place people I know are fleeing to, that and Costa Rica. I don’t think Rob has ever mentioned Portugal. it might be a little too upscale for his pocketbook.

The Portuguese D7 and D8 visas are pretty trivial to get, and there is favorable tax treatment for the first 10 years if you plan things properly. Spain's "Non Lucrative Visa" program is also easy, but requires more assets, and the tax situation can be quite vicious unless you structure your assets cleverly, and decide living in Madrid is fine (to avoid the worldwide wealth tax...).

The Netherlands are fairly easy to get a visa for (under the DAFT program), the tax situation there is either great, or terrible, depending on how your assets and income are structured.

Ireland offers a way in under their Stamp 0 visa program, you need to demonstrate €50k+ income, lump sum assets about in the amount of a house purchase, and private hospital insurance.

[Tradd]

I think Rob considers himself someone who has chosen to leave the United States.

It’s just that we’ve been hearing that for decades now.

And bae’s suggestion is interesting. Portugal is a place people I know are fleeing to, that and Costa Rica. I don’t think Rob has ever mentioned Portugal. it might be a little too upscale for his pocketbook.

We all know the truth that the reason why Rob hasn’t left is because he has no money. Countries generally don’t want poor people moving there. If he sold the house, he’d have some money, but is that enough for a country’s requirements?

[frugal-one]

I remember getting off the plane in Italy and seeing guards with guns like that. It wasn't a very welcoming feeling!

Saw in China as well.. bayonets at end.

[Rogar]

I remember getting off the plane in Italy and seeing guards with guns like that. It wasn't a very welcoming feeling!

I remember similar when visiting Mexico as a tourist. Plus, many did not look old enough to shave!

I spent a couple of weeks in Chicago some time ago and did not feel safe riding the L after dark. The Hill published the ten cities with the highest crime rates. Chicago didn't make the list. I was surprized to see Denver made the top ten, but there are places in Denver I wouldn't go at night. I suppose all big cities have places like that. When I spent time in Memphis, locals actually warned me to watch out for situations that didn't feel quite right due to their crime problems.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-crime-cities/

[Yossarian]

Chicago didn't make the list. /

Hey we don't even make the top 25.

https://realestate.usnews.com/places...ngerous-places

Sorry IL, you still have the lead.

But we have been the best big city to visit for 8 years in a row

https://www.timeout.com/chicago/news...ve-year-100124