Government Coup

[frugal-one]

Logistically, how do you round up and deport 3,000,000 people in a manner you would find ethical and legal? I'm thinking that ICE and Customs & Border Patrol officers haven't changed their routines much between then and now, other than now making efforts to protect themselves and their families from a politically charged resistance who could find no reason to pay attention earlier.

That’s what you get for thinking. Do you remember SEEING masked, plain-clothed goons stuffing random people in unmarked vehicles during the Obama administration? Of course not! We are seeing this now daily. The massive amounts of ICE are trained for border patrol… not as police. It is obvious they are not trained for what they have been thrown into and it shows. I’ll take Obama immigration any day over the current regime’s ballastic approach. Rogar’s post above more eloquently explained it!

[frugal-one]

I think it definitely depends on who's in charge. Politically, sometimes following the law is ok, sometimes it's not. I think it depends upon whether or not you think the person in charge is a light-bringer or Hitler incarnate. Perspective is everything.

Perspective is not everything! The results of leadership’s actions tell all. Obama’s administration deported massive amounts of people and did not have protesters in the streets unlike the current regime where supposed ICE agents are killing people in the streets.

[frugal-one]

ah, tell me then what role Renée was playing in that protest. How did she come to be there. What was her goal in being there. And etc.

You are a big girl and should be able to figure it out. If I lived anywhere near that area I also would be out protesting the gestapo infiltrating and rounding up my neighbors! This tactic is reminiscent of Hitler Germany hunting for Jews! Wasn’t trump’s claim to just target the worst of the worst? Now, randomly people are being picked up. The worst of the worst… my ass.

[frugal-one]

So, I surprised myself by actually considering that if anything happened to Donald Trump we might actually be in a WORSE way with J.D.Vance. He is young and inexperienced and Steven Miller and others would make him their puppet.

And, trump is experienced and not a puppet? trump is even shown sleeping at meetings! Why is he not called “sleepy d”?

[Rogar]

So, I surprised myself by actually considering that if anything happened to Donald Trump we might actually be in a WORSE way with J.D.Vance. He is young and inexperienced and Steven Miller and others would make him their puppet.

regardless of the outcome, I'd still like to see Trump eating a lot more saturated fatty red meats, bacon, and cheeses as per the new food pyramid. J.D. always comes across as a very nasty person and it's no wonder the pope died the day after his visit, but I don't think he could carry the clout that Trump has to intimidate and control. How a whacko like Miller wormed his way into political leadership is beyond me.

[Rogar]

There could be a ruling in the tariff case Friday. Waiting with bated breath.

I've not seen anything in the news. I was anticipated a Trump set back, which is always nice.

[Tradd]

I've not seen anything in the news. I was anticipated a Trump set back, which is always nice.

Didn't happen yesterday.

[Alan]

Perspective is not everything!

Sure it is. I'm currently sitting in the basin of the second largest canyon in the country, being visited by cute little roadrunners and enjoying life without a care in the world. If you're in the area, stop by and I'll show you how the principle works.

[frugal-one]

A picture DH took of a roadrunner here is the screensaver on our computer. However, the perspective you have unfortunately is momentary. Enjoy it!

[iris lilies]

This is news to me--where are you getting this information?

I took some time to answer this question; I needed to review sources I’ve been consuming since it all can glom together in my mind

Currently I think

• René Good was sympathetic to the goals of organizations that exist to disrupt ICE. She and wife followed at least one social media account of a Minneapolis ICE monitoring group. (Inside Edition report) Her wife Rebecca said in an interview released yesterday ( multiple sources) that they “stopped to support neighbors” in the ICE protest.
• Renée Goode parked her maroon colored SUV at an angle to somehow participate in an ICE disruption exercise. The car was not parked on the side of the street. The car was stopped in a place that disrupted traffic. (Videos)
• ICE agents gave her a lawful order to get out of her car. She chose not to do that. ( videos)
• There MAY have been conflicting orders from ICE where someone indicated she should move her car ( videos)
• Renee drove her car forward where an ice agent stood and the car hit him; ( Officer Ross’ phone video) she MAY not have intended to hit him ( conjecture)
• ICE agent Ross used regrettable and unnecessary force in this situation to shoot her (conjecture)
• ICE agent Ross viewed Renee Good’s vehicle as a deadly weapon ( conjecture)
• Renee Good’s car hit ICE agent Ross (Ross video)
• ICE agent Ross acted lawfully if regrettably and did not use the highest and best option he was trained for which would’ve been to not shoot the driver of this car ( conjecture)

There is a whole lot else that is rumor and conjecture, and some of that is that she was an active member of one of these ICE disruptor groups. But I wasn’t able to confirm that in any of the sources that I looked at carefully today. More may be revealed later.

I really wanted to know what the ICE protestors were “supposed” to do, that is if they’ve been trained, when they encounter a lawful order from ICE agents. It is clear that Rebecca and her wife blew off ICE commands and Rebecca Good even taunted agents.

I see that in a lot of law-enforcement videos of sovereign citizens in traffic stops. These folks don’t think they need to pay attention to law-enforcement. They find out otherwise