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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Our new friends here are both the committeeman and committee woman for the Democratic party precinct, maybe the entire county says DH.

    I wonder if frugal-one could be friends with local leaders in her area of the Republican party.

    We are used to having a lot of friends who are not politically aligned living as we did in the inner blue city. Actually, here, we see more people we know at the Republican gathering than we ever did in the city. Our
    committeeman friends may be in the minority party here.
    Living where we do, we have many friends not “politically aligned”. We have had previous discussions but now prefer not to discuss politics. Interestingly, many that pay attention to what is transpiring are regretting their previous vote(s). If trump is not able to rig the election, he is going to lose bigly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Very little now that taxpayers aren't paying for it.
    So bringing it up had what purpose if it's irrelevant?

    What news source(s)do you consider the most or more reliable? I've seen where many consider "social media" their primary source.

    It's interesting that the court(s) have determined that the executive order violates first amendment rights but the congressional decision stands, even though it does the same thing.

    I'd just as soon have PBS/NPR operate independent of government pressures anyway, although they can still threaten to suspend it's broadcasting permits, as we've seen with late night comedy. My favorite public radio is technically community radio. They have claimed they used to get 10% of their operating budget from the government. When they lost that funding they cancelled a few hours of syndicated NPR programs and replaced them with local features about water quality, local farms, hunting seasons, gardening, etc. They still feature public radio morning and evening news and a few features like Wait Wait. I use NPR online news as a primary news source and find their reporting trustworthy. I consider the change in community radio an improvement and send them donations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    So bringing it up had what purpose if it's irrelevant?
    If you follow the conversational flow you'll see that I did not bring it up and like you, simply replied to someone else's post.

    What news source(s)do you consider the most or more reliable? I've seen where many consider "social media" their primary source.
    Some time ago I came to the conclusion that all established news sources tailor their product to maximize its profit potential through advertising, donations or subscriptions. I can't think of a single source which routinely presents reliable news rather than their opinion on what their preferred audience might find newsworthy.
    With that said, I have been impressed with the snippets of news and news related product put out by The Free Press. They seem to be trustworthy although I can't bring myself to the point of subscribing to verify, not yet anyway.

    It's interesting that the court(s) have determined that the executive order violates first amendment rights but the congressional decision stands, even though it does the same thing.
    Yes, which I referenced in my initial response a few posts upstream from here.
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    I agree with you, Alan! All mainstream media caters to their audience--even if some are more reliable than others. I did subscribe to The Free Press through Substack for a while, but I discontinued my paid subscription because they didn't convince me they are completely "fair and balanced". I think Bari Weiss has a conserative agenda. But I will say that I am often pulled in by their headlines that require a paywall to get to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    So bringing it up had what purpose if it's irrelevant?

    What news source(s)do you consider the most or more reliable? I've seen where many consider "social media" their primary source.

    It's interesting that the court(s) have determined that the executive order violates first amendment rights but the congressional decision stands, even though it does the same thing.

    I'd just as soon have PBS/NPR operate independent of government pressures anyway, although they can still threaten to suspend it's broadcasting permits, as we've seen with late night comedy. My favorite public radio is technically community radio. They have claimed they used to get 10% of their operating budget from the government. When they lost that funding they cancelled a few hours of syndicated NPR programs and replaced them with local features about water quality, local farms, hunting seasons, gardening, etc. They still feature public radio morning and evening news and a few features like Wait Wait. I use NPR online news as a primary news source and find their reporting trustworthy. I consider the change in community radio an improvement and send them donations.
    just replying to one point in this post: I don’t see how you or anyone can believe that the congressional decision to stop funding PBS/NPR violates first amendment rights. What is your reason for that?

    And I will have to read the court’s reasoning to see why the executive order violates first amendment rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    just replying to one point in this post: I don’t see how you or anyone can believe that the congressional decision to stop funding PBS/NPR violates first amendment rights. What is your reason for that?

    And I will have to read the court’s reasoning to see why the executive order violates first amendment rights.
    I will leave it up to the courts to decide what is or isn't a violation of first amendment rights. I don't have a strong opinion either way. What I don't understand is how the executive order could be a violation, where as the congressional ruling is not. Maybe you can help explain.

    I'm just fine keeping tax payer dollars out of public media, thus avoiding government pressures over content, but hope their corporate sponsors and donations can keep it going. I think they serve a valuable news and entertainment source among all the others, as your decades of listening might indicate. There is a lot of content besides just news, especially among the various boguses and cheap entertainment of social medias and amateur misinformed utubers. I have wondered who actually follows "X". No one I know personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I agree with you, Alan! All mainstream media caters to their audience--even if some are more reliable than others. I did subscribe to The Free Press through Substack for a while, but I discontinued my paid subscription because they didn't convince me they are completely "fair and balanced". I think Bari Weiss has a conserative agenda. But I will say that I am often pulled in by their headlines that require a paywall to get to.

    The best thing about Substack is the volume of independent thought represented. You can pick through the smorgasbord of thought to find the authors you like best across the spectrum.
    I still get Krugman's free content substack and find it enlightening, but part of the problem is like you say. I can get the NYT for a dollar a week and public media for free, but $8 a month substacks or Free Press types starts to eliminate certain audiences and you have to get more than one for a full spectrum of news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I still get Krugman's free content substack and find it enlightening.....
    If you enjoy the musings of economists, look at some of the archival works of Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell. Their ability to incorporate economic scholarship into culture, politics and jurisprudence was an ideological and philosophical awakening for me 40 or so years ago. Thomas Sowell is still around but at 95 years of age he's not as prolific as he once was, and that's a shame.
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    One thing I like about Krugman is that often you can just look at his charts and get the whole story without reading. I understand he left the NYT because they were too restrictive of what he wanted to write. I wonder home much of political or big money sway were involved with that.

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    i usta be a fan of PBS to a degree, but have always detested NPR like a sickness. So yeah---some nitwit activist judge is lashing out, on account of his TDS. The sooner we take total control of Greenland, so Those Type of People can be interned there, the better. Their labors can be more usefully exploited in the mines, there. Yup.

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