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Thread: Occupy Wall Street PROTESTERS Not Letting Up - Nationwide

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnlaurel View Post
    Furthermore - those that ARE protesting solely on Redistribution of Wealth - Grow up and get a clue! Go find a country that concept has been successful... oh wait, there really isn't one, is there?
    Even China has had to embrace capitalism to progress.
    So we should be more like China?

    There are a lot of countries where a few have pretty much everything and the rest have pretty much nothing - capitalism doesn't seem to work very well in those places, at least not for what we expect capitalism to do in this country.

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    Mountainlaurel, I agree that people want to work and well-paying jobs aren't out there. Over-regulation, over-taxation and people (corps. and small employers) holding on to their money right now rather than hiring and innovating are what is causing the jobs scarcity. Fear of Obama's policies as described in previous sentence are what is choking the economy. Obamacare is killing R & D - overtaxation is killing R & D which is sending millions of jobs overseas...

    They may be mad about this but their anger is mis-directed.

    I can not be counted among the rich. I can guarantee you if a son or daughter of mine were to spend an ounce of their time in this sort of time-wasting, ridiculous endeavor - I would be ashamed. We get up, we work, we identify problems, we fix them. The only time in our history I would have ever joined a protest and been proud to be part of one was the work of MLK jr. That was a worthy cause.l

    This is spoiled brats wanting the govt. to feed them and wipe their bottoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post
    More good works from the Occupy Wall St. people:

    The Smithsonian’s National Air and Space Museum on the Mall was abruptly closed Saturday afternoon after a “large group of protesters” tried to push past security guards and enter the museum, Smithsonian spokeswoman Linda St. Thomas said.

    At least one demonstrator was pepper-sprayed by a museum guard in the confrontation, St. Thomas said. Several witnesses said that more than a dozen people were affected by the spray.

    The museum was closed at about 3:15 p.m., St. Thomas said.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...g.html?hpid=z2
    Appears that was agent provocateurs: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1...C-?via=siderec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post

    The above by JP1 summarizes in a nutshell what I believe is so wrong with all of this. The park is a privately owned piece of property. Nevermind the origins of the original transaction to purchase it. Someone owns it and the owners are supposed to be "whining like babies about what has happened to their poor ......park." The private property of citizens should be respected. This is all about redistribution of wealth...which again leads me to say the private property of citizens should be respected.
    Except that part of their deal was that they had to build a park for PUBLIC USE. They stopped having all the benefits of private property ownership of the park land when they made the deal. As long as the protestors are acting within the law it's not really their place to complain. And if the protestors were/are acting illegally I'm sure the police would only be too happy to step in and arrest them.

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    I can guarantee you if a son or daughter of mine were to spend an ounce of their time in this sort of time-wasting, ridiculous endeavor - I would be ashamed.
    If my son or daughter were to spend some of their time taking part in this protest - the very essence of democratic rights, enshrined in the first amendment - I would be PROUD. I simply can't imagine a parent being ashamed of a child who wishes to better their world and who is willing to put themselves on the line to do so, regardless of the format. Donating to charities, volunteering, serving in the military - and yes, protesting, if that is what one's beliefs call for! I am not so foolish as to think that my children and grandchildren (if I had any of those) must believe as I do to be good people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post
    Over-regulation, over-taxation and people (corps. and small employers) holding on to their money right now rather than hiring and innovating are what is causing the jobs scarcity.
    Since 1980 the trend has been de-regulation and our taxes are at a historical low.

    I can guarantee you if a son or daughter of mine were to spend an ounce of their time in this sort of time-wasting, ridiculous endeavor - I would be ashamed.
    Really?

    Peace

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    I'm gonna "yeah that" to zigzagman's post. Because it is more accurate that catwoman's characterization.

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    i don't know any people at the rallies who are going for redistribution of wealth.

    One thing that the Tea Party was adamantly against was bailing out the auto and banking industries because of the potential corruption AND the lack of guarantee that it would actually help the economy.

    One thing that Occupy Wall St is about is not bailing banks and other corporations when there's no obvious, clear development of the economy (job creation, etc).

    Seems to me that they have everything in common, if you can segregate it from the ridiculous hate-mongering going on via the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post
    When a variety of media outlets have questioned some protestors on live t.v., asking them "Why are you here and what are you protesting?" -Responses included:

    I don't know..seems like the place to be.

    Dude..where's my car?

    I'm raging man.

    This is a silly effort on behalf of the far left to legitimize this "protest". Dems think they can come up with their own sort of tea party. Remember the nasty mess left in the aftermath of Woodstock? These people aren't going to clean up after themselves. They need to go home shower, put on some fresh tye-dye and hemp garments and go find a job.

    1. This is not a pseudo grassroots movement with billionaire underwriters. This is a bunch of folks who are diverse in their viewpoints and concerns, but what undergirds the protest is the notion that the economic system isn't working well for everyone. Wall Street is easy to target because it is inhabited by people who are grossly overcompensated for their meager contributions to society.

    So, of course it's barely organized. Of course the concerns are diffuse and difficult to articulate. Some of the folks will seem foolish or misinformed. That doesn't mean everyone participating is a moron, as you are implying.

    2. The Democratic party has not, as of yet, co-opted the OWS movement. Unlike the tea party, which is merely a subbrand of the GOP.

    2. You right wingers are so predictable. The moment a left leaning protest takes place, time to do some hippy punching. Jesus, can you give it up already? Not everyone who sympathizes with OWS is a dfh, just like not everyone who sympathizes with the tea party is necesssarily a racist.

    3. Find a job? That's one of the problems, have you noticed that folks are having a hard time getting good jobs these days? That's one of the problems that ordinary folks are dealing with.

    Unbelievable.

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    "The system is broken. It needs to be reformed. People are tired of being used and lied to. They voted for change and were ignored when they expressed their views and quite strongly. And when they complain, they are ridiculed. And now they are getting really angry. And the powers-that-be are trying to figure out how to play them for their own ends."

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