Quote Originally Posted by loosechickens View Post
And maybe that is the crux. The right of some to dictate the choices of others. On the one hand, many think it perfectly all right that if an adult woman becomes pregnant ,either from failure of contraception, even rape, etc., although said woman has free access to all information about pregnancy and childbirth, she should be forced to......... Undergo counseling, wait for 24-48 hours, undergo an invasive probing of her vagina, complete with showing her the pictures of the zygote, complete with listening to its heartbeat, in order for her not to make a "wrong" choice, etc. Yet many of the same people who want to make sure women have ALL the information before they choose to complete a pregnancy, seem cheerfully willing for large numbers of already born children to make important choices that will affect their entire lives after being systematically prevented from experiences and knowledge THEY would need to make an actual informed decision.

Maybe it the ludicrous quality of this that stymies me.
And on the flip side, many folks seem to be of the opinion that a 'zygote' remains simple tissue until it's transformed by a live birth. That it's mother has the right to execute it at any time without even the courtesy of looking it in the eye (or even an image of it's eye) beforehand.

I agree with Midwest's remark that there is a middle ground between a collection of cells and a human. I'm not sure where that is, but to listen to pro-abortion folks, it doesn't matter. The language of pro-abortion doesn't allow words which may challenge the preferred orthodoxy, which seems way too self serving for my comfort level.

I'm stymied by the ludicrousness of it as well.