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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris lily View Post
    I agree with everything bae said, that's pretty much my position as well. It is killing, it is what it is.
    and you also are ok with killing? I find that sick and twisted. You are OK with KILLING. Twisted....unless of course you are saying it for shock value. if not, then its simply sick to say "I find killing ok"
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    Quote Originally Posted by poetry_writer View Post
    and you also are ok with killing? I find that sick and twisted. You are OK with KILLING. Twisted
    You can use whatever labels you like, but I think you knew full well when you entered into this conversation where you would lead it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poetry_writer View Post
    ...if not, then its simply sick to say "I find killing ok"
    It is next to impossible to live on this planet without killing.

    Even if you limit the discussion to killing of humans, not all killing is murder, sometimes killing is needful. Sometimes killing is even an affirmative moral duty.

    That's not "sick and twisted", unless you haven't thought it through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    It is next to impossible to live on this planet without killing.

    Even if you limit the discussion to killing of humans, not all killing is murder, sometimes killing is needful. Sometimes killing is even an affirmative moral duty.

    That's not "sick and twisted", unless you haven't thought it through.
    We are talking about humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris lily View Post
    You can use whatever labels you like, but I think you knew full well when you entered into this conversation where you would lead it.
    It led to you saying killing is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poetry_writer View Post
    We are talking about humans.
    And as I said:

    ... not all killing is murder, sometimes killing is needful. Sometimes killing is even an affirmative moral duty.

    That's not "sick and twisted", unless you haven't thought it through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poetry_writer View Post
    It led to you saying killing is ok.
    Yes, exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    And as I said:

    ... not all killing is murder, sometimes killing is needful. Sometimes killing is even an affirmative moral duty.

    That's not "sick and twisted", unless you haven't thought it through.
    When is killing a human ok?

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    So, I am assuming, poetry_writer, that you are against things like our invasion of Iraq, the tens of thousands of little children who have been killed there and in Afghanistan, the death penalty, etc?

    As bae says, it is pretty much impossible to go through life without killing, whether it's other forms of life, human life, etc. Heck, having fifty million citizens in this country without access to health insurance probably involves a lot of human life being killed, people dying unnecessarily, etc.

    Look at all the little children already born who are abused, and even killed by their parents. Look at the kids that social services, stretched to the max already, let slip through the cracks and who die in miserable surroundings. Try not to waste all your angst on a collection of cells unable to live outside the womb....spend some of that on all the little children dying everywhere, all around you in this world. The ones who are already born.

    Wasted effort......going to bed.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris lily View Post
    Yes, exactly.

    going for the shock value ....

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