The only pity I see, is far too many US citizens (gun-owners) can't see daylight past the ends of their gun barrels.Originally posted by East River Guide.
The applicable standard in this case is the force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to the defender or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
I have no idea what that means.Originally Posted by Mrs-M
For advocates of trial-by-media, mob justice, and lynching:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...rge-zimmerman/
Isn't this fun?Spike Lee Incorrectly Tweets Address of George Zimmerman
An elderly Florida couple has been caught in the cross hairs of the Trayvon Martin shooting case due to an incorrect tweet by Spike Lee and others.
The director retweeted an address said to belong to George Zimmerman, the man who shot Trayvon Martin dead on Feb. 26, to his 250,000 followers, according to website thesmokinggun.com. But the address was incorrect and has caused the couple to go into hiding.
David McClain, 72, and his wife Elaine McClain, 70, are now living in a hotel and said they are concerned for their safety.
“We’re afraid for our lives,” Elaine McClain told WKMG-TV in Orlando.
McClain said her son’s middle name is George and his last name is Zimmerman, but he hadn’t lived at the residence since 1995.
Elaine McClain has heart problems, and when contacted by ABCNews.com, said she was not doing well and was heading out to a doctor’s appointment. McClain said she and her husband parked around the corner from their home and were briefly stopping by to grab clothes and other necessities.
The tweet originated from an account with the twitter handle @MACCAPONE, The Smoking Gun Reported. The account, which is the handle for a Los Angeles man named Marcus Higgins, tweeted the address at various celebrities. Lee was the only one to retweet it.
The director was active on Twitter today, retweeting negative messages he has received since sharing the McClains’ address.
Elaine McClain said Lee owes her and her husband a “big apology”.
As for now, the official word from Lee’s representatives? “No comment”.
I see no benefit in sensationalizing the case beyond that of what it already has been.
I don't know if that one is legit, but this one is. There were plenty of distortions in the initial media stories. Most reports I have seen have TM at 160 lbs and GZ at a bit more at the time of the incident.
Last edited by Yossarian; 3-29-12 at 8:12am.
What is the timeline for this case to go to trial?
Edit to add: Nevermind, silly question --- the investigation is still pending, right?
Sorry - I use this board more like Google than a discussion forum.
I had heard that the above pic of Trayvon, with his pants falling down and flipping off the camera isn't actually him at all.
I guess we can't believe anything we hear/see/read. So we'll just have to wait. And who knows even then, whats true and not true.
Probably a whacko -grizzley Adams mountain man survivialist off living in some backwoods shack doing God only knows what! They wear hoodies too ya know -ala Ted Kasinski :-).
But yes, Cathy A, I do know what you mean by the difference between the "gang" look and just someone wearing a hoddie. It's the whole package - baggy pants, etc.. But around here in SoCal (30 miles south of L.A.) you really can't tell the difference between a gangbanger and the school's valedictorian. While the schools do ban certain attire and gang-colors from the classroom, outside of school everyone dresses the same. Maybe that's not the same where you live but it certainly is here.
Lastest up-date is the video showing GZ NOT bloodied or bruised or even dirty like you would expect if he had been in a very violent physical attack. That was something I wondered about a few days ago when they said he was interviewed by police for 5 hours right after the shooting but didn't need any medical attention. Definetely a factor that I felt could be used to implicated GZ for even the lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter at the very least. That combined with the kid being shot in an open area not on someones private property. But even though the police felt he should have been arrested for involuntary manslaugther charge - or higher -the DA didn't think they had enough evidence for arrest, let alone a conviction (and getting a conviction is often all the DA really cares about) so released him.
Last edited by Spartana; 3-29-12 at 4:27pm.
First he has to be arrested and charged with something - and those charges could be for a variety of things with murder in the first degree being the highest (that would not likely be the case anyways) - and that won't happen until an investigation is done to see if they even have enough evidence to charge him with anything. After that, then there may possibly be a trial...or not. He could plead out to a lesser charge, or evidence that was gathered during the investigation could be thrown out even before trial (I see that as a likely possibility being that none was gathered and a long time period has passed since the shooting), etc... I wouldn't hold your breath!
If you were talking about the Statute of Limitation, then none exists for a murder trial and a perswon can be tried at anytime. But if it's for a lesser charge - say involuntary manslaughter,justifiable homicide, murder in the second or third degree then this is Florida's: Florida has a limit of four years in which the prosecution must be initiated for manslaughter (and second and third degree murder as well).
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