I don't know why we even have these discussions. It never leads to anything but to preaching to our own choirs.
And I must say, some of the pro-gun people here are pretty rude and totally closed-minded, resorting to rude insults. (that does not apply to all the gun owners here....just a couple).
Listen everyone.........if you like arguing for argument's sake, then okay, have at it.
But if you're hoping for any kind of open-minded discourse, it ain't going to happen......at least not with a couple of the pro-gun people here.
(who by the way, just love bragging about their stockpile, showing pictures of various weapons, etc. if only to inflame).
If you want to talk survivalist stuff, or gun stuff.........why don't you go to the various forums out there, where you'll have all the agreement you need.........instead of needing to bully and argue.
I find it fairly sickening.