Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
Did anyone ever expected to support a family on a fast food worker salary?
That's missing the point. Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "An edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring." The point being that those who need to support a family should not be reduced to being a fast food worker.

Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
I expect it wont be to long we will be pushing the #1 or whatever your order # is on a touch screen, then swiping a card and picking your order up at a window.
Without a doubt, the radical shifting of work in our society, marginalizing the humans in the interest of profit, is partially the cause. But the larger part of the cause is the callous disregard shown by those who benefited from such shifting in their failure to conscientiously apply the power they gained to ensure that their profit built as many new, living-wage jobs as they converted through automation or transferred elsewhere through off-shoring. You'll hear a lot of rationalizations and other exculpatory claims regarding the obligations of those who benefit greatly from society's offerings, but recognize them for what they are: Rationalizations. Excuses for egoistic avarice and practicing the callous disregard for others. If there weren't people rewarding such rationalization, it wouldn't be necessary for society to have to fill the gap such self-serving behaviors leave behind.

Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
People need to be working on skills that produce something.
Tell that to Glenda Bell. I think the matter would be better served by people working hard to build those aforementioned living-wage jobs instead of working hard at rationalizing greed and blaming the victims.

Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
Different ways to cut the data but not really seeing your "ascendency" here.
When you see things in only two dimensions, it is easy to miss the reality of three dimensional life. But heck, you want to look only at two dimensions, then look at these, instead:

This income shift is real. We can debate its effects all day long, but it's real. The super rich have a much bigger piece of the pie than they used to, and that means a smaller piece of the pie for all the rest of us. You can decide for yourself if you think this is something we should just shrug our shoulders about and accept.
It is easy, and perhaps fun for those who don't have those worried, to belittle and marginalize those that do carry the heaviest burdens of economic injustice. Easy, but not admirable.