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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    And before even the bother of any investigations, hearings, trials, jury deliberations, or anything!

    Very efficient, this new social media mob rule thing. Hope it works out for you.
    Yep, there are 750,000 "investigators" out there now.

    This case is much more dramatic than Trayvon Martin because there is video footage, there is rioting and looting, and everyone involved in the primary act are choirboys (verified by the Ferguson police chief this morning when he announced the the officer's name.)

    Mob rule or social justice, everyone's got an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Yep, there are 750,000 "investigators" out there now.

    This case is much more dramatic than Trayvon Martin because there is video footage, there is rioting and looting, and everyone involved in the primary act are choirboys (verified by the Ferguson police chief this morning when he announced the the officer's name.)

    Mob rule or social justice, everyone's got an opinion.
    Not only does everyone have an opinion but regardless of how this ends, there will be no way to make everyone happy. I just hope this ends somewhat neutrally as there is so much anger and resentment out there in general - the wrong decision could send Ferguson and other places like it over the edge. You'd think that people with money and power would care - the images of places like Ferguson going over the edge being released via the Internet for the world to see would not be good for the stock market, if nothing else. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Basic human rights are going to have to come into play and be respected and this cop - he's not going to be able to hide behind his badge in a good old boy's network and get off scott free - at least not automatically. There will be consequences if this does occur and the perception is such. And maybe this is what social media is good for? Doling out consequences in situations where before the law didn't mean much. Rob
    But Rob, what if he's innocent of any wrongdoing? Too bad/So Sad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    But Rob, what if he's innocent of any wrongdoing? Too bad/So Sad?
    If he's found innocent of any wrongdoing even though the young man had no weapon...ummmmm.....we truly live in a third world country. But without the family values and the colorful marketplaces and tendency towards a slower, saner pace once you get out of third world cities. Is that what anyone really wants? Rob

    PS I came back to add - who knows how many lawsuits there will be from those teargassed who were peacefully protesting, and then those two reporters who were assaulted and detained? Would not be surprised if they sued, too, and they are connected and educated....in other words, they know the dollar value of such behavior by the police. And much of the public will be on their side, which may just help everyone's lawsuits here. One problem with this whole situation is there is so much inequality in wealth distribution in the US that many people are going to automatically side against the police, considering it their duty to do so. I don't consider it a duty but as the facts have been presented so far, never has enough money been printed for equitable settlements. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    If he's found innocent of any wrongdoing even though the young man had no weapon...ummmmm.....we truly live in a third world country.
    I might consider a 6'4", 300lb young man with demonstrated violent tendancies to be a weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I might consider a 6'4", 300lb young man with demonstrated violent tendancies to be a weapon.
    Sorry, I don't. Assault I'll go for, yes, but weapon, no. No can do. And he weighed less than 300 lbs, it was a little over 200 that I read online. I'm not saying it's great he did what it appears he did, either. I am saying that he should not have been killed by the Ferguson police - and now there is going to be hell to pay and relentless media attention. Ruined careers. All kinds of good things. Just because this one cop couldn't keep his gun contained when dealing with someone carrying no weapon. The teargas fiasco, and the assaults on the two reporters by the Ferguson police are just going to add to the parade when all of this goes to court. Also the aggressive militarization of the local police - THOUGH SOME GOOD - I read today there is some Democratic lawmaker saying they are crafting a bill to reduce police militarization. None too soon in my book. But at least one positive thing to come from all of this. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Sorry, I don't. Assault I'll go for, yes, but weapon, no. No can do. And he weighed less than 300 lbs, it was a little over 200 that I read online.
    292. That's a little over 200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    292. That's a little over 200.
    I just googled and you are right on the weight and I was wrong. I thought I read earlier today 232 lbs. but I just read in USA Today 6 feet 4 inches and 292 lbs just like you said. That still doesn't equate with weapon in my book, thought intimidating, I'll go for. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    292. That's a little over 200.
    Looks over 200 to me


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    He does look intimidating and I feel sorry for that clerk in the pics. I can't tell from the vid here how tall he is exactly or what he weighs, but then I've never been good at estimating these kinds of things. Rob

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