Well, let's see what our friends in the media have done recently to help:Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
CNN broadcast a video that showed the house, including the street number, of the officer.
USA Today named the neighborhood. The Washington Post named the street where he lives.
Yahoo News named the neighborhood where he lives, and published a photograph of him.
The UK Daily Mail named the neighborhood, posted photos of the fellow, and described the house.
Happy hunting to Rob's Mob.
It just seemed unnecessary, considering you can probably see entrance and exit wounds externally, and figure out the directions and proximity to the policeman.
It's not my mob, Bae. Before that cop pulled the trigger, he should have been aware of the issues of perception like I stated a few posts back, of how vulnerable he would be to social media - or in your examples, the media in general - and also how vulnerable he would be to growing inequality in the US and how it would impact perceptions of his actions. In short, this cop does not strike me as someone who thought the implications through before firing. Is that someone you want as a cop being a taxpayer, for the simple reason of litigation risk? And yes, society in the US has really deteriorated to this point and become this crazy. Working in the service industry and living in a lower income neighborhood I see it every day. Rob
But at least Rob's mob does sound catchy and it rhymes, I'll give you that much.
You have to get your hands dirty to get the data.
If, as is claimed by some, the fellow was grappling for the officer's gun or indicating an intent to do so, how much time would you have the officer devote to performing this analysis, Rob?
How much weight does he give to the value of his own life and going home to his family at the end of his shift against the implications of the Twitterverse?
No! I can't imagine not conducting a careful forensic autopsy in this case, and I agree with having multiple agencies involved so that no one agency comes to blame. No doubt there will be differing conclusions drawn, however.
This realization, realizing what's going on in society and how it could work against him, should have been programmed into his brain after six years on the force Bae.....Inequality is only getting worse, social media has been around for a few years now, and the concept of perceptions in any kind of position where you deal with the public is nothing new. Basically there should have been a mental checklist in his head before he ever fired - if for no other reason, to save his pension and his job. In other words, he could have CYA'd much better.
About the grappling for the gun - why not just taser then? Does anyone know if this cop had a taser? That could have subdued Brown and saved all this drama and upcoming multi-million dollar lawsuits. Brown could then have been arrested had the cop known of the robbery and taken to jail and processed for a felony and been treated at least neutrally. We'd never even know his name if he'd just been tasered. I realized that Micheal Brown was 6 4 and 292 lbs so this could sure intimidate but I just don't know about shooting him and killing him - why not just go for his leg, something to hinder him, if that was totally necessary? Gotta say I'm not seeing the logic in shooting him dead. Prosecuting for robbery/strong arming the clerk, yes - but shooting him dead, no. Rob
I think there is a real chasm between peaceful protest and the video that IL posted of the looting of the store in her neighborhood. If that were my neighborhood, you bet I want the police there restoring order.
If a perp (or a peaceful protester, for that matter) grabs a policeman's gun, what does he think is going to happen? If this was the same fellow strong arming the store clerk, then he looked pretty intense and/or hopped up to me. Big guy, potentially on some kind of drug,. grabbing my gun?
Were I the type to carry a gun, and I am not, that person would probably get shot.
Especially if he shot me first.
But back to my original thought--would any of us think, oh, yeah, this is fine, this is protest, people smashing glass, people destroying other people's businesses, laughing mobs looting together--seriously, what kind of protest is this?
You really do not want the police there, dispersing this kind of mob action?
If indeed he grabbed for the cop's gun this was by far the most likely way it was going to play out. Cops, logically, will do whatever is necessary to live to go home at night. If I was a cop and a nearly 300 pound dude (or even a regular size guy) grabbed for my gun you'd better believe I'd make sure that I grabbed it first. Grabbing a taser (assuming he even had one) and leaving my gun available for the dude to grab would not be an option.
I think it's going to be very interesting to hear what this cop says vs. what the witness who was in the store with the deceased says and then see how both sides attempt to discredit each other. And there seem to be no shortage of discrediting factors on both sides of this fiasco.....This one I will be following to it's end out of intense interest. For the cast of characters alone and their numerous mis-steps this one is worth following.
On this one I will admit I have a hard time being completely objective as I have seen both racial profiling and police brutality in action before - but not directed towards myself, toward neighborhood Hispanics here in Phoenix. I can understand that if someone goes after a cop's gun, survival instincts are going to come into play....but...but....but to shoot and kill someone who had their hands up in the air and was unarmed? I just don't know. It's hard to be objective on this one as I have learned to fear and distrust the police and I have learned that "justice" is doled out based on social class in this country. I.E. Have the right skin color and the money for a good attorney, (or maybe just the money for a good attorney) your consequences tend to be less than those who don't have this going for them. Best course of action is not do anything to get into trouble in the first place of course, I'd agree with that. Rob
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