Any day I don't see 20 people is a good day.

i still think you are confusing collation with causation.

some hoarders are isolated because they are prevented from socializing by their stuff. others would lock people out of an empty room. Others invite people in anyway - they want socialization and don't care about/see the mess.

when you say to me "imagine what your life would look like if you had no stuff" the first image that springs to mind is me alone in the woods, minimally clothed and eating berries. there is no one with me. My ideal world would involve me never again seeing any people I don't know. Or also some of the ones I do know.