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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    There really is no way to forgive America in this case. Innocent citizens being murdered in cold blood by sociopathic police officers who get away with it due to how this country is set up......this is completely beyond human forgiveness. I knew this by age 12......luckily I was exposed to America as it really is before any Kool Aid could take effect. Rob
    You really need to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    That is excellent work, then, citizen crime patrols! You have to work with police in that. We work closely with them, I call our 3rd District desk sargeant every time I set out in mobile patrol. Rob, I am glad you are stepping forward to take real action. I thinkNk we could be accused of just riding around in a car, but it is still a big step up from typing screeds on keyboards.

    My neighborhood's ratio of real action to keyboard action is, oh, I dont know, 1:40? For everyone who spends 4 hours a month on mobile patrol ( that is our reqired minimum) there are 40-50-60 people who cry, whne, and moan about how we need more police presence, we need to hire private security, and blah blah blah. Hw's about them stepping up to do a mobile patrol stint.
    IL, Thank You for your kind words. What really inspired me to get involved was the fact that one of the victims could have just as easily been my Mother In Law. It all started striking too close to home so I became willing to bend and flex a bit and cooperate to some degree with the police. I just hope we can catch these POS. But yeah, I have committed twice a week to the patrol. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    You really need to leave.
    Ya think? Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    There really is no way to forgive America in this case. Innocent citizens being murdered in cold blood by sociopathic police officers who get away with it due to how this country is set up......this is completely beyond human forgiveness. I knew this by age 12......luckily I was exposed to America as it really is before any Kool Aid could take effect. Rob
    America, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways.
    I hate thee to the depth and breadth and height
    My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
    For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
    I hate thee to the level of everyday's
    Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
    I hate thee freely, as men strive for Right;
    I hate thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
    I hate thee with a passion put to use
    In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
    I hate thee with a love I seemed to lose
    With my lost saints, --- I hate thee with the breath,
    Smiles, tears, of all my life! --- and, if God choose,
    I shall but hate thee better after leaving

    With apologies to Elizabeth Barrett Browning, maybe we could make this your tagline.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    America, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways.
    I hate thee to the depth and breadth and height
    My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
    For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
    I hate thee to the level of everyday's
    Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
    I hate thee freely, as men strive for Right;
    I hate thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
    I hate thee with a passion put to use
    In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
    I hate thee with a love I seemed to lose
    With my lost saints, --- I hate thee with the breath,
    Smiles, tears, of all my life! --- and, if God choose,
    I shall but hate thee better after leaving

    With apologies to Elizabeth Barrett Browning, maybe we could make this your tagline.
    Mmmmmmm........I feel we can not intelligently discuss this topic, Alan. I'd really need you to get up to speed on how laws are applied unequally in this country based on race and social class, along with a refresher cource in exactly which races suffer the most/least under excessive - as deemed by the court - force. Right now we can't talk as we live in/represent two completely different countries and yours has never worked well for me from day one.......So I'll just politely agree to disagree with you. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Mmmmmmm........I feel we can not intelligently discuss this topic, Alan.
    Sure we could, if the entire discussion weren't based upon feelings you've had since you were 12. All the years you've been unable to forgive America is based upon a conclusion in search of whatever supporting evidence you can find in dozens of areas.

    It's good to take a proactive stance in improving conditions in your neighborhood, but the constant hate of an entire country is tiresome.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Things one parent's or whatever tell one at 12 years old are rarely useful guides to life. They are mostly completely worthless as most parental brainwashing is.

    Of course there is nothing wrong with having or coming around to similar politics as one's parent's other elders or whatever from reading and learning and thinking and feeling and observing, but it's usually not by way of "this is what I believed at 12 years old". A 12 year old has no experience with working and paying bills and the job market and adult relationships and etc.. - so their opinion on most topics is pretty uninformed.
    Trees don't grow on money

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    You really need to leave.
    I'd contribute to a gofundme....

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    I live in an alternate reality where people include themselves when they talk about "America". Where zip codes are a postal convenience rather than an identity group. Where complaints about the cops are generally about there not being enough of them. Where no one dreams of a country they can flee to that can offer them asylum from their inner demons. So I have trouble understanding or sympathizing with many of the arguments being made here. Nor can I grasp the depth of hatred I'm seeing here.

    What I'm thinking is that attributing everything bad that happens to Trump is every bit as ridiculous as attributing everything good that happens to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Sure we could, if the entire discussion weren't based upon feelings you've had since you were 12. All the years you've been unable to forgive America is based upon a conclusion in search of whatever supporting evidence you can find in dozens of areas.

    It's good to take a proactive stance in improving conditions in your neighborhood, but the constant hate of an entire country is tiresome.
    No, unfortunately we can't, as you have made crystal clear here. Instead of acknowledging the huge differences in how the law is applied in the US based on race and social class, you chose to give your America a free pass and refused to even comment on the issue. You also gave your America a free pass as to which races suffer the most under excessive police force.....did you really think I didn't notice this? With all due respect, I pull myself from this convo.....in my America you don't get to shove such issues under the rug and I take that reality out into the world with me. I deserve the basic respect not to have the darkness of your America shoved under the rug, as do well over 300 million others carrying this citizenship. I do Thank You for your kind words though about my getting involved in what's been going down in the 85006. With that I exit this convo. Rob

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