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Whether or not we personally feel repulsed by the "superstition" of Christian salvation or by any other religious dogma, I think we have to keep the context in mind, and I think Bernie overstepped his bounds on this count. Otherwise, he's perfect.

Maybe I feel the way I do because I spent to much time as a devout Catholic. Even though I no longer subscribe to the cornerstone belief that's in question here, I still find myself a "defender of the faith" on occasion.
I'm sure my ancestors--an inordinate amount of whom were Christian clergy--would disapprove, but religious beliefs like the kind expressed by Vought seem as antiquated to me as torchlight. That they were uttered before a like-minded audience makes no difference to me. I'm on the rolls of the Catholic Church through no agency of my own.

"Traditional values" are arguable, I guess. I believe in the traditional values of honesty, kindness, charity--and yes, self-reliance--but not in the persecution of people for their sexuality or for their reproductive decisions. Or for their religion, for that matter, though I believe religion is best practiced, as Jesus suggested, alone in a closet (Matthew 6:6).