Anyone catching up with tired old joe gives me hope that the average person isn't as stupid as I assume they are.Originally Posted by LDAHL
And I love that you've eschewed the tired "socialist" tag that most "never will vote for a democrat, but want to concern troll them about what to do" conservatives have grabbed onto and instead picked a truly unique term for us. (and one that I had to look up.) Bravo.
I see that the loud and proud Democratic Socialists who've influenced the party so far to the left haven't tired of it.
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
I don’t think Warren is a socialist in the classic sense. I would classify her as more of a statist who believes she can immanentize the eschaton through the tax system and a powerful regulatory state. She aims to “fix” capitalism because she believes herself smarter than the markets are.
She is a good example of what Bill Buckley meant when he said he’d sooner be governed by the first eight hundred names in the phone book than the faculty of Harvard.
Hickenlooper got a lot done here. He never used dirty campaign tactics in his runs for office. Gun control legislation like universal background checks and magazine capacity limits. He went along with the vote to legalize recreational pot at the state level, one of the first states. He started a network of light rail that no doubt cuts down on greenhouse gasses and facilitates transportation. He brought the economy back from the financial meltdown to be one of the strongest among states. Now millennials and other are moving here relentlessly. One could even say we have a millennial migration problem here. Housing costs are spiraling up and cheesy small lofts are going up everywhere to accommodate the demand for affordable housing. We probably don't need a president like that.
Last edited by Rogar; 8-16-19 at 9:43am.
I don’t know that any two of them could agree on what American socialism would look like. I know I don’t have a clear picture.
Much like the Affordable Care Act, we must fully commit before being entrusted with the details.
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
American socialism is defined as "anything any democrat is in favor of". At least if you ask a republican. As Pete Buttigieg rightly pointed out, "no matter what we as a party do the republicans are going to call it socialism, so we might as well do what we think is the right thing to do."
That's probably because even the Democratic Socialists of America can't seem to define it beyond generalizations designed to lure in the gullible.
https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/what...tic-socialism/
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
So they have nothing more definite than “what we think is right”? Who gets to speak for we? Sounds like your cartoonish Republican straw man may be right to paint with an equally broad brush.
This republican obsession with the definition of socialism is baffling. Especially in light of how they tend to be the ones coming up with the wackier potential definitions. I mean, really, one has to be a special kind of stupid to think that paper straws are in any associated with socialism. Although I suppose if the government took over the straw factory at the same time as it mandated paper straws maybe they'd be onto something.
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