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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Just read where a black guy got life for stealing 50 from a bakery.
    Is there more behind that story? I mean, it isn't typical in this country to get life in prison for a misdemeanor charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    When I lived in Wisconsin you weren’t afraid to call the police if there was a issue.
    Welfare checks... Police are called to check on someone. In rural Wisconsin it is still routine for officers to go to the residence, and inquire into the well-being of the person of interest. But I have read about situations in bigger cities where the welfare check goes bad. In some cases the person of interest is hearing-impaired, or bombed on drugs/alcohol, and thus unable to understand, let alone comply with the commands of officers. Because of the use of lethal force to deal with non-compliant individuals, I would be extremely reluctant to call police to do a welfare check on anyone. Like the Little Red Hen, I will just have to do it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Is there more behind that story? I mean, it isn't typical in this country to get life in prison for a misdemeanor charge.
    yes. He was sentenced 36 years ago in Alabama under their three strikes laws. It was his third felony. In 2013 the laws were changed.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ng-50-n1048266

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    You always seem to decide in favor of the police.
    I don't decide anything without facts, the details which are always missing in the conclusions some of you share in these threads. Conclusions reached without relevant facts are always wrong.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    I just got off the phone with the Dallas County District Attorney's Office after showering them with praise for prosecuting Amber Guyger. Remember folks....this happened in Texas outside Travis County/Austin. Her cold blooded murder was actually not swept under the rug and any Woman Card and/or Law Enforcement Card was ignored and she was ACTUALLY PROSECUTED.

    I have nothing but praise for this DA's Office for actually working under and respecting the spirit of the law. It could be said that the reason behind such was not so noble - preventing justifiable large scale rioting in a large, racially tense city - but at least the system (sort of) worked here and this DA's Office deserves respect in my book. Rob

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    Rob, just curious, would you treat a cop who was a Mexican immigrant the same as you do any other cop? I’m just curious since Mexicans seem to do no wrong in your eyes. Or would they be tainted for having put on a badge?

    I’m not being snarky. I’m serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I just got off the phone with the Dallas County District Attorney's Office after showering them with praise for prosecuting Amber Guyger. Remember folks....this happened in Texas outside Travis County/Austin. Her cold blooded murder was actually not swept under the rug and any Woman Card and/or Law Enforcement Card was ignored and she was ACTUALLY PROSECUTED.

    I have nothing but praise for this DA's Office for actually working under and respecting the spirit of the law. It could be said that the reason behind such was not so noble - preventing justifiable large scale rioting in a large, racially tense city - but at least the system (sort of) worked here and this DA's Office deserves respect in my book. Rob
    I’m no expert, but this would seem to be pretty much a no- brainer prosecution to me. I think you’re making some unjustifiably negative assumptions about Texas, women, cops and the justice system in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Rob, just curious, would you treat a cop who was a Mexican immigrant the same as you do any other cop? I’m just curious since Mexicans seem to do no wrong in your eyes. Or would they be tainted for having put on a badge?

    I’m not being snarky. I’m serious.
    Fair question in my book Tradd given my continual praise of Mexico. Your answer is yes. A Mexican immigrant of either gender pulling the trigger in this case equals a need to be criminally prosecuted, just as Amber Guyger was. If you find this surprising, remember my siding with the Chicago PD recently in the Jussie Smollett fiasco? I'm not a 100 percent auto liberal - I just call them as I see them based on my life experiences in this country/what America had taught me. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I’m no expert, but this would seem to be pretty much a no- brainer prosecution to me. I think you’re making some unjustifiably negative assumptions about Texas, women, cops and the justice system in general.
    With all due respect I disagree. It is true that things are changing - granted and given. It is also true that in Texas and the Deep South that such murders have historically been swept under the rug, especially given that the deceased was an African American male. How to forgive America for this unfortunate and very true reality? I have no idea, I really don't as I'm far too much of a humanitarian not to see this fact for the evil it truly is. But, I will also say that things are changing....the results of the Guyger trial do seem to highlight a societal shift here. Good to see, I will grant that. And very, very, very long overdue. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Fair question in my book Tradd given my continual praise of Mexico. Your answer is yes. A Mexican immigrant of either gender pulling the trigger in this case equals a need to be criminally prosecuted, just as Amber Guyger was. If you find this surprising, remember my siding with the Chicago PD recently in the Jussie Smollett fiasco? I'm not a 100 percent auto liberal - I just call them as I see them based on my life experiences in this country/what America had taught me. Rob
    I’m not taking about this case. I mean cops period. If you come across a cop who is Mexican are you going to be in fear of him or will you look differently at him since he’s Mexican?

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