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    It was just announced that the third case in the Chicago area did not travel overseas. They aren’t announcing how the patient might have contracted it. Probably don’t know at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I don’t get why sanitizer is better than washing your hands in hot soapy water.
    I've seen a few articles saying soap and water are as good or better than hand sanitizer, especially if you hands are dirty or oily. I'm in the soap and water school but use the hand wipes entering and leaving stores. So far we've not had and positive cases in our state, but I've noticed the stores are especially low on hand sanitizer but have plenty of different soaps. The only other thing that seems in short supply is toilet paper. A short article from consumer reports article comparing soap to sanitizer that references the CDC.

    https://www.consumerreports.org/flu/...lu-protection/

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    Proper hand washing is far superior to any dab of sanitizer or wipes. Here is a video from Dr. John Campbell on proper technique.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AGW3bbcb3Y

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    Soap and water and *proper* washing is the gold standard.

    Hand sanitizer is helpful for places where that isn't possible or convenient. For instance, every table at our Emergency Ops Center has a hand sanitizer setup available, and at the entrance, because unfortunately the building being used doesn't have proper handwashing facilities.

    And at my fire station, there are sanitizer setups (which we already had mounted and in common use) at all the entrances into the "behind the scenes" spaces, so people moving from the public space into the staff space would improve their odds of not dragging some bug inside. In the main bay though, moving from the rigs/ambulances into the staff space, there's a proper decontamination room that we use when returning from a call.

    Don't stress about hand sanitizers. Indeed, seeing how untrained people commonly use them, a dab of sanitizer goo patted on your paws like a magic potion seem unlikely to me to accomplish the job - you have to actually properly use the stuff.

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    I hate hand sanitizers. They dry out my skin and feel sticky.

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    If many people have mild symptoms that can be confused with the flu, and some are asymptomatic, I don't think anyone has any idea how far the virus has spread and quarantines are shutting the barn door after the horse left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    If many people have mild symptoms that can be confused with the flu, and some are asymptomatic, I don't think anyone has any idea how far the virus has spread and quarantines are shutting the barn door after the horse left.
    Correct.

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    We just had our first conference cancellations and more are expected.....good thing I've been saving money. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    OK, I'll bite. At this point, what part of the US response to the coronavirus is inadequate?
    The president went on tv and told people to go to work if they have it. Inadequate is, well, inadequate to describe that. That’s pretty much the worst response possible from the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    The president went on tv and told people to go to work if they have it. Inadequate is, well, inadequate to describe that. That’s pretty much the worst response possible from the government.
    Unfortunately some people are in the situation where if they don't work, they don't get paid. And for those that DO get "sick days", I know for my state/my situation you earn 1 hour of sick pay for every 30 hours worked, up to a maximum of 40 hours sick time for a year.
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