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    Too bad that probably won't make up for the loss of reputation/job/career or whatever else goes along with being labeled a conspiracy theorist.
    too bad, tough luck. what a bunch of snowflakes. I mean if you are going to have obscure non mainstream ideas isn't it the nature of things to maybe be obscure even if you were right. And if you are going to spread ideas with no basis at all well uh ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Too bad that probably won't make up for the loss of reputation/job/career or whatever else goes along with being labeled a conspiracy theorist.
    Don't worry, within a couple years the conspiracy theorists will be back in charge of the White House and Congress. They can then get back to their thorough hoodwinking of the proudly ignorant and easily fooled in flyover country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultralight View Post
    Don't worry, within a couple years the conspiracy theorists will be back in charge of the White House and Congress. They can then get back to their thorough hoodwinking of the proudly ignorant and easily fooled in flyover country.
    You know that's what I like about you Jake, I know you're bright enough to use satire/sarcasm efficiently, I just never know if you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    You know that's what I like about you Jake, I know you're bright enough to use satire/sarcasm efficiently, I just never know if you are.
    Touche!

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    Possibly of interest to those curious about our post-factual world:

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/pops.12396

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    Covid positivity is down to 3.00% in my state and will go even lower. (No, I don't have a crystal ball - I look at wastewater data.) Hospital capacity is back to normal and my dad had his knee surgery today that he has been waiting since November for.

    I wonder what excuse the Board of Health and Library will come up with to keep their mask mandate in place.

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    My dad, 83, tested negative for covid the Friday prior to his knee surgery yesterday. He completely isolated 5 days prior to the surgery. He felt dizzy upon getting home after the operation and returned to the hospital where he then tested positive. So obviously he got it in the hospital - so much for masks preventing transmission.

    He is boosted and vaccinated and has no covid symptoms. But I am sure he will now inflate the covid hospitalization statistics. These were weeks ago supposed to be separated out by hospitalized for covid vs with covid but the state is still lumping them all together in one bucket in its daily numbers. If he had just stayed overnight for observation as many patients do instead of pushing to go home he probably would never have been counted as a covid patient.

    ETA: I have not seen him in 6 weeks as his surgery kept getting delayed and I didn't want to maybe pass an asymptomatic infection I had to him - then he gets it anyways.

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    According to many fact check sites, Medicare with extra funding through the CARES act pays hospitals and doctors more when there is a Covid diagnosis. Every state tumbles the numbers differently and the lack of clarity continues.

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    So, I talked to 2 patients recently for a lung disease study. One of them acquired this lung disease a few years ago, and it has gotten so bad that he's waiting for a lung transplant. He veered off topic to start a diatribe against the government and about how he would never get vaccinated because "you don't know what's in it?" And I'm thinking, he is severely disabled with a respiratory disease, and unfortunately the statistics say that he is probably going to die within a couple of years, vaccine or not. He's worried about a COVID vaccine?

    The second patient's lungs were completely scarred and messed up BECAUSE of COVID. He got COVID, was 72 days in the hospital, the doctors told him he wouldn't make it through the night, his lungs developed severe scarring and he's 80% disabled, and he was being evaluated for a dual lung transplant. His wife got COVID, his daughter got COVID. But, still, he said he would NOT get the COVID vaccine. He said "I don't believe in the vaccines, because there's not enough time to see what is going to happen."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    According to many fact check sites, Medicare with extra funding through the CARES act pays hospitals and doctors more when there is a Covid diagnosis. Every state tumbles the numbers differently and the lack of clarity continues.
    Yes. Perhaps there ARE ways to have clean, internally consistent numbers, but that shipped sailed two years ago. It is all an estimate.

    The number I believe is that hospitals are slammed, and much/most of that due to influx of Covid-serious-sick patients. That others show up or leave with Covid is of less interest, but of course they get counted among Covid patients.

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