Russia/Ukraine?

[ApatheticNoMore]

Russia runs a formidable worldwide propaganda machine

I don't doubt it runs a formidable wordlwide propaganda machine, but then so does the U.S.. Best not to believe either entirely probably is frankly my perspective. Best to believe they will try to manipulate you for ends you don't know regardless probably. Pox on both their houses, live your life.

Its purpose is to destabilize the West by dividing and inflaming their citizenry.

then again there are just as likely to be other forces doing the same. Like you destabilize people just so they can't act on something that effects your profits, let's say pollution as an example. Or take climate change, though unlike local pollution that's a big complex problem, but it wasn't Russia that sowed doubt there, though they may have their interests as well, it was some of the most profitable companies in America like Exxon Mobile. So I tend to believe that diving and inflaming for narrow profit interests is much of what is going on. And no Russians are even needed to explain it. But what if those who wish to destabilize by dividing and inflaming for the sake of narrow profit combine with Russian propaganda? Then you have the modern Republican party I guess

[JaneV2.0]

It seems our propaganda machine isn't up to world standards. We can't even properly propagandize our own citizens.

[gimmethesimplelife]

It seems our propaganda machine isn't up to world standards. We can't even properly propagandize our own citizens.

LOL I sure don't buy into much of US propaganda. Rob

[happystuff]

Its purpose is to destabilize the West by dividing and inflaming their citizenry.

We, as a country, don't seem to need anyone else to do this - we are doing a fine job of it on our own.

[bae]

We, as a country, don't seem to need anyone else to do this - we are doing a fine job of it on our own.

Well, I think we get plenty of help.

Did you notice the straight-outta-Russia Qanon nonsense on full display during the hearings on the most recent Supreme Court nominee the other day?

[happystuff]

Well, I think we get plenty of help.

Did you notice the straight-outta-Russia Qanon nonsense on full display during the hearings on the most recent Supreme Court nominee the other day?

That's just it... if not from Russia, the nonsense would have come straight outta somewhere else. My point is that it is not so much from where, but what we do with it as a country. We ARE divided and pulling stuff from everywhere and anywhere, instead of ignoring the nonsense and choosing to come together. (Again, not an easy topic, so I hope my point came across.)

[ApatheticNoMore]

Someday someone will have to tell me the relation of Murdoch and his media "empire" the Russian empire. As that has been destroying this country for a long time and every country it touches. But where to even start. We didn't start the fire ...

[LDAHL]

Well, I think we get plenty of help.

Did you notice the straight-outta-Russia Qanon nonsense on full display during the hearings on the most recent Supreme Court nominee the other day?

I noticed that the insidiously evil Republicans seemed to have covertly brainwashed the nominee into talking like a constitutional originalist.

[JaneV2.0]

Well, I think we get plenty of help.

Did you notice the straight-outta-Russia Qanon nonsense on full display during the hearings on the most recent Supreme Court nominee the other day?

I noticed a pack of jackals figuratively trying to tear apart an eminently qualified, history-making nominee in an attempt, apparently, to drag her down to their level. Their pointless churlishness probably won't derail her, but it certainly left many of us appalled. Yes the QAnon nonsense was on full display.

[Alan]

I noticed a pack of jackals figuratively trying to tear apart an eminently qualified, history-making nominee in an attempt, apparently, to drag her down to their level. Their pointless churlishness probably won't derail her, but it certainly left many of us appalled.

I felt the same way watching the Kavanaugh and Barrett hearings. Out of curiosity, what makes this one different?