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    If anything, humane border policies would make me more likely to vote for a given politician. Bodies strewn around the desert, dead of thirst, illustrate an appalling indifference to human life.

    I've been anti-war as long as I can remember, but I absolutely support Ukraine's desperate efforts to defend itself, and, by extension Europe. It's not like we've ever balked at military spending before, so I'm happy to send them every possible armament.

    Although I think President Biden is doing as good a job as could be expected, I agree we need someone younger, with new ideas (and a modicum of personality). Democrats have a deep, deep bench; off the top of my head I like Stacy Abrams, or--dark horse alert--Al Franken.

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    We’re only 1 1/2 years into the biden presidency. Trying to figure out who should be running in 2024 today is just a lot of navel gazing.

    That said, personally I’d also prefer that we not continue with the gerontocracy. Biden may have been the right person to get us past the trump horrors but next time around he probably wouldn’t do as well unless the economy takes a big turn to the upside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    If anything, humane border policies would make me more likely to vote for a given politician. Bodies strewn around the desert, dead of thirst, illustrate an appalling indifference to human life.

    I've been anti-war as long as I can remember, but I absolutely support Ukraine's desperate efforts to defend itself, and, by extension Europe. It's not like we've ever balked at military spending before, so I'm happy to send them every possible armament.

    Although I think President Biden is doing as good a job as could be expected, I agree we need someone younger, with new ideas (and a modicum of personality). Democrats have a deep, deep bench; off the top of my head I like Stacy Abrams, or--dark horse alert--Al Franken.
    Oh sweet mother of God, don’t make me consider voting for Al Franken for god’s sake. I’ve never liked him, even though I think he got a ridiculously bad rap for that trumped up sexual-harassment caper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Oh sweet mother of God, don’t make me consider voting for Al Franken for god’s sake. I’ve never liked him, even though I think he got a ridiculously bad rap for that trumped up sexual-harassment caper.
    He should have fought it; that was ridiculous. But he's smart and was an effective senator. I'll keep looking.

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    I have no real choice in the matter. To vote Republican would be the ultimate middle finger salute to much of what I believe in and stand for. I'm not especially pleased with Biden at this point, either - but not a day goes by that I am not grateful DJT was not reelected.

    I'm just not able to backstab so many people I know and respect by voting GOP. And I don't care to be a pariah on my turf like the Fillipino couple two streets over no one likes. There are many social class issues that I - unlike many others here - have to contend with when I vote.

    TL/DR: My life experiences have directed me away from ever voting GOP.

    Rob

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    How about Pete Buttigieg? He seems like a decent possibility to me.
    I would love to see Charlie Baker run for president, but he is a republican and apparently the party doesn't like him, even though he is considered to be the most popular governor in the US. https://patch.com/massachusetts/sale...campaign=alert

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosarugosa View Post
    How about Pete Buttigieg? He seems like a decent possibility to me.
    I would love to see Charlie Baker run for president, but he is a republican and apparently the party doesn't like him, even though he is considered to be the most popular governor in the US. https://patch.com/massachusetts/sale...campaign=alert
    Not to run for president yet, obviously, but I think Hakeem Jeffries is wonderfully talented and seems like great senatorial material.

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    I liked and still like:

    Tulsi Gabbard
    Andrew Yang
    Michael Bennet

    On the other side I like:

    Rand Paul
    Ron DeSantis
    Bill Weld
    John Kasich

    People I heard in person and didn't like:

    Steve Bullock
    Julian Castro
    Joe Biden
    Deval Patrick
    Amy Klobuchar
    Corey Booker

    People I heard in person and liked at the time but no longer do:

    Pete Buttigieg - couldn't stand how in debates he was smirking at other people
    Elizabeth Warren - shouldn't have turned on Bernie Sanders
    Bernie Sanders - too old now and hasn't accomplished anything since he ran

    Never on the other side:

    Donald Trump

    I voted third party last time and would do so again if I don't like anyone running in the major parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    I liked and still like:

    Tulsi Gabbard
    Andrew Yang
    Michael Bennet

    On the other side I like:

    Rand Paul
    Ron DeSantis
    Bill Weld
    John Kasich

    People I heard in person and didn't like:

    Steve Bullock
    Julian Castro
    Joe Biden
    Deval Patrick
    Amy Klobuchar
    Corey Booker

    People I heard in person and liked at the time but no longer do:

    Pete Buttigieg - couldn't stand how in debates he was smirking at other people
    Elizabeth Warren - shouldn't have turned on Bernie Sanders
    Bernie Sanders - too old now and hasn't accomplished anything since he ran

    Never on the other side:

    Donald Trump

    I voted third party last time and would do so again if I don't like anyone running in the major parties.
    You have mentioned a lot of very good people here, who seem talented and dedicated to our country. It's heartening to think of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I have no real choice in the matter. To vote Republican would be the ultimate middle finger salute to much of what I believe in and stand for. I'm not especially pleased with Biden at this point, either - but not a day goes by that I am not grateful DJT was not reelected.

    I'm just not able to backstab so many people I know and respect by voting GOP. And I don't care to be a pariah on my turf like the Fillipino couple two streets over no one likes. There are many social class issues that I - unlike many others here - have to contend with when I vote.

    TL/DR: My life experiences have directed me away from ever voting GOP.

    Rob
    I didnt ever think there was a chance you would vote Republican.

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