As a gay man with straight male MGTOW friends I find this topic fascinating. Simply put, it seems that many straight men have given up on dating/relationships/marriage/fatherhood. Can you blame them?

The above prospects in an era of me too, no fault divorce and alimony/child support in a country of turbo charged capitalism and declining standards of living and diminished opportunities for most - what sane man, after doing a cost/benefit analysis, would sign up for this today?

Want this to change? Until there is true equality upon divorce, and family law courts overhauled to be less anti male and alimony scrapped in the cases of both partners working and no fault divorce scrapped - expect even less straight male participation in these areas.

Ladies of this board - please don't hate me. As a gay man I am a tourist to these issues so I thought I'd drop some truths I've learned from straight men - fairly successful and attractive ones, too. Men's issues need to be taken just as seriously as women's - until such a date, continue to expect more men becoming Passport Bros or just giving up on this part of life entirely. In the current climare it is in straight male best interest to do so. And I don't believe one word here has been misogonistic (sp?). It is no longer 1950 - and this is not ALL bad. These changes have allowed me to be legally married to a wonderful man. As I said, I am a tourist to these issues. Rob