Good news/bad news.....(DJT/Portland, OR)

[gimmethesimplelife]

I have good news and bad news. DJT is sending troops into Portland, OR, authorized to use "full force."

Good news - Troops are coming to Portland.
Bad news - Troops are coming to Portland.

Bad news - I know Portlanders, I lived there for five years. They will not tolerate this BS for long. I can totally see an uprising of some kind coming and I do believe this might mean bloodshed and deaths - entirely the blame of DJT and more reason to imprison him in hard labor in El Salvador for the remainder of his life. At any rate, this was the wrong US city to pull this, but let this Administration find that out themselves.

Good news - I believe if there is indeed an uprising, the fall out may split this country up faster and given that such is the very best we could hope for going forward, I say bring it on! How cool that my adopted hometown may lead to justice for millions of US citizens. As always, I am proud of my affiliation with Portland, OR, I just wish it was closer to the border and I wish it were less expensive. What's your take? Rob

[KayLR]

I'm curious how many troops he is sending to the very small area of downtown PDX that has occasional unrest. I foresee lots of standing around. If it rains, even more.

[gimmethesimplelife]

I'm curious how many troops he is sending to the very small area of downtown PDX that has occasional unrest. I foresee lots of standing around. If it rains, even more.

This is something that has worked against Portland in the media, I believe, and what do you think given that you live in the area? The area in question is but a very small few block area of downtown Portland. It is not the entire city frothing and on edge as the media and the GOP in general would have the public believe. I worry because I know Portlanders - they will not tolerate this BS for long and if an uprising were to occur, I can see it taking place in Portland more than in most other US cities. This invasion goes against everything Portland stands for and I do believe Oregon would be best served joining up with California and Washington and seeing if Canada would be willing to take them OR create for real the long discussed notion of Cascadia. Oregon is far too good to be part of the current United States of America and what it's about and what it stands for. I hope in my lifetime Oregon can break free of the United States, it is such a wonderful place and deserves to be part of something better than what the US is becoming/has become.

And stay safe! Who knows what is going to take place in Oregon, now? All we need is one rabid MAGA to pull the trigger on someone innocent and my wish for the US to split may very well start at this point. I personally would avoid downtown like a plague until we know how this is going to play out. Rob

[bae]

I suspect part of the point of this kabuki show is to draw a reaction from Portlanders, so the administration can point and say “see, see, left wing terror groups!”

Probably the best response is to simply ignore them, or bring them some Voodoo doughnuts.

[KayLR]

Great idea! Send the Unipiper to greet them!

[Alan]

I suspect part of the point of this kabuki show is to draw a reaction from Portlanders, so the administration can point and say “see, see, left wing terror groups!"

I'm guessing that's part of it. I think the overall plan is to highlight the effect progressive politics has had on safety and security in progressive areas. It also gives the DOJ further opportunities to track the planning and logistics sponsors which plan, organize and fund efforts such as this:


It's my understanding that the federal ICE facilities have been under nearly daily assault by protestors for the past 4 months or so and local politics has prevented city resources from intervening to the point that even local noise ordinances are not enforced as they may interfere with protest efforts.

[Rogar]

I see where some politicians are warning, "don't take the bait". I imagine Trump's brain has not moved beyond the riots five or so years ago in addition to wanting some sort of conflict. I wonder if there are protests he will charge them as terrorists, since that is what antifa seems to be now. I can imagine that some day Trump's masked men will escalate a situation and innocent people will be hurt. And he will say, I told you so.

The Oregonian has described any recent protests as low key involving a small number of people and some have been arrested by local authorities. They were described as basically throwing sticks and rocks at police. At least they aren't throwing sandwiches! Quote for the Oregon Governor.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/202...ut-summer.html

“We have the situation under control with the ICE facility in Portland. … There’s not a problem at the federal facility, and when there is a situation that requires police enforcement, it is happening and we are holding people accountable,” she said.

[Tybee]

Here is another curious development:

ICE to launch ‘enforcement action’ in Broadview amid outcry over feds' response to protests | FOX 32 Chicago

[Tybee]

And this story makes me think you don't need the DOJ to investigate why people are protesting:

‘Daddy, police!’: New video shows masked ICE agents arrest father outside child’s school in Beaverton - OPB

[Rogar]

Slightly aside, but local TV has had ads wanting people to apply with ICE. They claim up to a $50,000 signing bonus plus salary. Local news has said the bonus and salary could be pulling local law enforcement away because they can't compete. That's sort of a catch 22. I suppose they also recruit former high school football players.