Action vs talk - George Carlin on the anti-abortion movement

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That's sort of right. He opposed legislation that would define an abortion survivor as a 'live birth'. I would maintain that any fetus, alive outside the womb, is a baby, deserving of all the constitutional protections that others enjoy. Without that designation, they can legally be left to die without medical care.

Peggy was right several posts back, it's a semantics game. If we don't get the semantics right, it's possible that people will realize that they're sometimes killing babies rather than removing a tumor or other foreign growth. Pointing that out is not a "slam" on Obama, it's pointing out the collective hypocracy of those who refuse to acknowledge the obvious.



Perhaps you define compassion differently than others. If it depends upon governmental intervention it's not really compassion, but rather forced servitude. Conflating the two may make a good argumentum ad hominem, but will not help your understanding.

1. Here is a link to a non-partisan objective outline of Obama's record on abortion. Everyone can make up their own minds.
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Pro...iews/Abortion/
2. Here is a link to a non profit organization that does research and compiles stats on abortion in real life. To clarify a few points, the vast majority of legal abortions in this country take place in the first 3 months. The vast number of women report feeling relieved more than regretful after having an abortion. The risk of regretting your choice is of course a possibility if you opt for an abortion, and in fact the woman behind Roe v. Wade certainly regretted her role in the case later in her life.
http://www.guttmacher.org/
3. You said: If it depends on governmental intervention it's not really compassion but rather FORCED SERVITUDE. So, let me understand this: when the government uses your tax money to save babies by paying for programs that protect the purity of baby formula or provide pre-natal health care to poor women or pay the salaries of social workers to take abused babies away from unfit parents...that is tantamount to enslaving you. But when the government makes it a crime to obtain an abortion, effectively coercing women into supporting "babies" with their bodies, that is NOT involuntary servitude.

I don't know anything about your personal commitment to helping other people in the form of charitable donations or volunteer work. For all I know you have adopted 60 kids and gave half your paycheck to the nearest home for unwed mothers. But you consistently oppose any government programs that effectively help other people and you are so vehement in your equation of taxes with involuntary servitude that I find it incongruous that you would not be troubled by the prospect of the government forcing women to bear children. That is involuntary servitude to me. You do know that in third world countries surrogate mothers are compensated for serving as incubators and giving birth? So the service of providing a fetus your body to grow iinto a full term baby does have as much monetary value as your work.
That is not an ad hominem attack.