Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
So, I think we've established the point that an ultrasound is a valid safety and diagnostic procedure for women seeking an abortion. So much so that even Planned Parenthood requires it before they will perform the procedure.

That begs the question, what is it about this mandate that troubles you so? Is it because you feel that there should be no governmental oversight of the medical industry? Or could it be that if an ultrasound is performed, the patient may, in some cases, confuse the image of unwanted tissue with a baby?
Glad you asked Alan, because apparently you don't get it. PP does an ultrasound strictly to determine the age of the zygote to help the doctor in the abortion. The state of Virginia demands the ultrasound because Virginia women are too stupid, apparently, to know what's in there. You yourself confirmed that suspicion. It's the intent and the reason that is so demeaning to women.
What a doctor does in the course of a medical procedure to preform that procedure is up to him and his patient. Arguing that the state is somehow looking out for women by ordering this mandate is completely absurd and insulting in the suggestion. But, someone who thinks Virginia women are stupid would think all women are stupid.

Gee, I didn't realize the Virginia Government was so CARING and personally involved in specific medical procedures to the point of mandates to specific parts of those medical procedures. I didn't realize the Governor was such an expert on medical procedures, specifically GYN, that he feels comfortable issuing mandates in those procedures. I wonder which other medical procedures he's involved in? Think maybe he has signed a mandate specifying how many stitches and how close they should be in heart surgery? Or maybe his expertise is proctology considering how far 'up there' he likes to be.

I'm not surprised you would defend this Alan. Your blind ideology, in the end, trumps everything, including your own war cry against 'government mandates'. A discussion such as this serves to ferret out the true nature of someones 'convictions' and where those convictions come from.

I have to say though, even though I generally disagree with bae on most things, he has shown a consistent respect for the women in his life, and all women really. In this he follows no ideology but his own conscience and heart. I admire that.