I think that even if the underclass changed all their values and behaviors so that they didn't cause disrespect/fear/distrust, that while this might serve them better individually (and does it need saying I have no problem with people helping themselves this way individually) - someone else would take the place of an underclass (as a new underclass) if it wasn't whoever does now. Because there aren't enough high wage jobs or even jobs period to go around! And our leaders have no interest in maximizing say good jobs as national POLICY. Or massive amounts of jobs wouldn't have been outsourced etc! Quite a problem there. The middle class - well some of it is just manners and mannerism, values and preferences, but the middle class also takes extreme measures to protect thier middle class-ness generationally (all about moving to where the good school districts are or private school etc.).. If you aren't born into that your already behind.

I'm not engaging in some national race discussion (if I wanted that I could post blindly to twitter or something, tag it right and hope for retweets), I'm exchanging discussion with particular individuals who are posting on this thread.

I don't think black ghetto culture is necessarily easy for white culture to understand and get along with. But I really do think much of it stems from decades of AND current racial discrimination. I don't think individual whites (unless they have a lot of power - well if they are police they do have some) necessarily bear much blame for this.

But one can continue to discussion of "what to do with the African Americans in this country" until it becomes much like the "jewish question/jewish problem" in Europe was for all those years before the holocaust (oops Godwin). But that definitely doesn't seem the way to go.